What Do We Think About Climate Change

Thanks Guillermo, you and me has totally different belifs on the way global warming will happen. I respect your belif and thoughts as I cannot prove a different scenario.
But it´s up to what you or I chose to belive in, and here we are on different sides.

From the way I read available reports I´m not so optimistic, but veryone is free to have their own opinion and live after that.

Prediction models are just software and models....just as anything else nowdays... common sence might be wrong sometimes...but it´s mostly on the safe side of the problems.

 

They talk about long residence time and turbulent mixing.....

Cheers.

 

Rambo
Sea level has risen (or land sinking) in the Med a couple of meters since the times of the Romans, Alexandria, etc.
What has happened to humankind around here because of that? Answer: Nothing.
Here we are, so happy. Roman civilization and others came and dissapeared and were substituted by new civilizations. So what? We have now some nice submarine ruins to visit and investigate, and a rich past from which to learn, that's all.

Adaptation, that's the name of the game. Humankind has been playing it succesfully for thousands of years.

Cheers.

 

If one billion homes put their cars running in their livingrooms they will probably all be dead within a week.
If they have their cars running outside, it´s just a bigger room....turbulent mixing.. sounds great...its just a bigger room and more air to pollute before you reach toxic levels....so the question is...is there enough fossile fuel left to pollute the air....

 

"Humankind has been playing it succesfully for thousands of years"
Thanks Guillermo, I have to evaluate this a little before posting back, maybe the speed of change might be a problem....but I will give your argument some time of reflection.

Talk later

rgds
Olle

 

The problem as I see it, is that the Greenies are afraid they don't have the adaptive powers to cope, so they whine.

 

I did manage to burn about 100 pounds of wood this weekend.

 

Why would there be a problem with food production? Warmer has ALWAYS meant a wetter climate; more precipitation, not less. The ice ages were dry, dusty and stormy; that much is known from the sediments found in ice cores deposited during the ice ages. And with CO2 levels rising, crop yields all over the world have been increasing; that's 'old news' by now. There's no reason to believe that trend will not continue. If you believe we really are headed for 3-5 degrees more global average temps, then that means large portions of North America, Northern Europe and Asia will likely become arable, which they have not been for many centuries.

Most likely none of this will happen; we are just in a mild warming and will probably only add a degree or two more over the next century.


As for the issue of decreased ability of "making a decent living and income" you should be more concerned about negative impacts of the 'solutions' to the AGW bogeyman than the actual 'problem'.


Jimbo

 

100 pounds?? That's sissy stuff!

After the '04 storms, I had about 100 trees down on my land, about 90% oaks of various kinds. Many (about 25) were very large diameter (18-36") with very straight sections of 20' feet or more. I just hated to see all that great wood just burn, so I started milling them up with a big 90cc chainsaw I bought just for the purpose. After a couple of logs, I decided it was too much like work, (not to mention one qt. of gas for each cut) so I gathered them all up for a big bonfire. I estimated about 50 000 lbs of wood burned that day. Flames were about 40' high. Wish I had taken some pics of that

Anyway, here' a pic of the first log to get turned into lumber. The bar on that saw is 30". Virtually all the other logs in the picture (and many more not in) were burned a couple of months after this was taken.



Jimbo

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/04/2732928.htm?section=justin

A United Kingdom court has ruled that a man can take his employer to court on the grounds that he was discriminated against because of his views on climate change.

Tim Nicholson was made redundant last year as head of sustainability for a property company Grainger Plc, the UK's biggest residential landlord.

Mr Nicholson successfully argued that his moral values about the environment should be recognised under the same laws that protect religious beliefs.

The religious police will be knocking at your door soon, so be careful what you say and who you talk to.

 

So does that make Al Gore God - or just the pope ;-) :-D

 

That makes Algore rich beyond comprehension. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...d-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html



Reality check.

 

Yea, the Pope of sort...he makes the oil companies look like a bunch of amateur boy scout.

Where are the suckers who vote labour or democrat or worst...green ?

 

Yes, milling with a chainsaw is not easy and a 90cc sounds like big but without a guide you are up the creek without a paddle.
Is that a Homelite 925 in the photo?
I mill with an old Homelite 1050 100cc and it is just adequate, I am looking for a Sthil 090 137cc. Petrol consumption should not be an issue unless your chain is not sharp or some other problem with the saw. You should have probably rented a portable band saw mill. That oak would have made good roof rafters, door or table planks or furniture timber once dry. Too late now.

 

I have a guide; it's one of those 'mini's' which rides a straight piece of 2 x 6 lumber nailed to the log. The saw is a Jonsereds 90.

Jimbo