Cummins -Cat comparison

Discussion in 'Propulsion' started by mohamed atia, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    hello all,
    this is the 1 threads to me,
    i admired ur forum a lot. and the first topic to discuss is that

    comparison between cummins k-19 and the competitive from Cat
    plz
    waiting for your help

    thanks for ur time

    M.A
     
  2. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    The Cat is a heavier more expensive engine that will last about double the time. It will also use more fuel because of its weight. The rebuild kits prices are also in proportion to the initial cost.
     
  3. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    thanks a lot gonzo
    but which cat model is competitive with cummins KTA-19 and
    if we talk about numbers what will be the result?
     
  4. gonzo
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    What numbers do you mean? If you want an engineering analysis of your boat, it is at least a three days worth of work.
     
  5. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    i prepared some thing like this and i want ur opinion in it?
    but i dont know if this engine in CAT series is the most suitable competitive to CUMMINS KTA_19
     
  6. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    i think it good

    this is what some one prepared
    ur opinions are very important?
    what right what wrong
    and what is the best
     

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  7. apex1

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    The KTA 19M is by far the better engine than the 3412 in terms of price, reliability, ease of service, specific consumption and 837 further points.
     
  8. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    thanks for your opinion
    I'm anew sales engineer for cummins diesel engines and i need more help in comparisons
    thanks alot
     
  9. apex1

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    Thats not my opinion Mohamed, thats the experience of many thousand fishermen worldwide.

    Regards
    Richard
     
  10. mohamed atia
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    mohamed atia Junior Member

    ok sir,

    thanks to god who give you all this experience

    c u in another benefit topic
     
  11. gonzo
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    I think that it depends on the use. On a heavy slow moving boat, the Cat may be a better option. If lighter weight and space are important, the Cummins has some advantages. V engines are usually lower and wider.
     
  12. apex1

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    In this case Gonzo its just a lighter 6 cyl. with much less spare parts against a heavier 12 cyl., with a reputation (in the commercial field) not as good as the KTA 19..
    In my opinion the cat has NO advantage over the cummins in this special comparison! But thats my opinion now.
     
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    I have always been a Cummins fan. I think they are a better value. However, the cost of a rebuild can be considerable, specially including the downtime. Are they getting as much hours on a KTA as on a Cat? In Sportfishermen they run them at high RPM and then at little above idle. Do you think that makes a difference?
     

  14. apex1

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    No idea Gonzo! I never was on a sea butcher boat, and of course do´nt operate my own engine under such conditions. At least not voluntarily.

    Richard
     
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