What Do We Think About Climate Change

Phil Jones of CRU is a devious *******.

Imagine if there were no reliable records of global surface temperature. Raucous policy debates such as cap-and-trade would have no scientific basis, Al Gore would at this point be little more than a historical footnote, and President Obama would not be spending this U.N. session talking up a (likely unattainable) international climate deal in Copenhagen in December.

Steel yourself for the new reality, because the data needed to verify the gloom-and-doom warming forecasts have disappeared. Or so it seems. Apparently, they were either lost or purged from some discarded computer. Only a very few people know what really happened, and they aren’t talking much. And what little they are saying makes no sense.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTBiMTRlMDQxNzEyMmRhZjU3ZmYzODI5MGY4ZWI5OWM=

The article rewards diligence, but only the enlightened climate realists will do it justice. The "CO2 is pollution" dullards will cry "anathema" as did those who condemned Galileo. On 31 October 1992, Pope John Paul II expressed regret for how the Galileo affair was handled, and issued a declaration acknowledging the errors committed by the Church tribunal that judged the scientific positions of Galileo Galilei, as the result of a study conducted by the Pontifical Council for Culture. In March 2008 the Vatican proposed to complete its rehabilitation of Galileo by erecting a statue of him inside the Vatican walls. In December of the same year, during events to mark the 400th anniversary of Galileo's earliest telescopic observations, Pope Benedict XVI praised his contributions to astronomy.

Warmists beware. Your defrocking is nigh.

 

Nsidc

Oh look. Antarctic ice continues to defy AGW predictions. Why am I not surprised?

 

The failure of the U.S. Senate to pass the Cap & Tax (Zero Growth Initiative) bill will be a major pimple on the nose for the U.S. delegation at the Copenhagen. Thus the big push from Il Duce Obama about AGW in the last few weeks. With any luck enough Senators will be brought to the light and will let the bill die a very unmemorable death to so we can avoid wasting even more taxpayer money on this insult to intelligence and common sense.

You can tell by the increasingly shrill nature of the alarmists that they fear reality overtaking their distortion of facts and outright lies about AGW.

Now if we can just hold off the forces of societal devolution here in the U.S. until 2010 and the forces of sanity retake the U.S. House of Representatives, the Zero Growth KoolAid Club may be put down for the count.

That article about Jones is a perfect illustration of the tactics of the alarmist elitists and their minions. Brings to mind the scene in the Wizard of Oz where the curtain is pulled away from the Wizard by Toto and the old fraud is exposed.

So much of the AGW agenda is similar in nature only the active participation of the media and the Hollywood Glitteratti keep the agenda alive but more and more the truth is leaking out and the concensus Imams like Boston are like becoming like drowning men denying the existence of water.

 

This is so typical of the mind set of the alarmist crowd.........


http://joannenova.com.au/2009/09/exile-for-non-believers/

 

Whos side?

I thought the big power compaies where resisting the climate change crowd, if so why this: http://www.nola.com/newsflash/index...1253904061205570.xml&storylist=new_topstories

Now they have cannot say we are all paid shills for big power if they ever could.....

 

What would be more relevant in this regard is the amount of ice in volume, not areal.. Anyway that's what I'd like to see..

 

Warmists create alarm about summer melt of large areas of polar ice. The depth or thickness of ice on the Antarctic land mass is about 4 miles thick. More at http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html

All in all, there is nothing that humans should worry about, except a snowball planet.

 

The Science is in. your right. But you have chosen to listen to the few rather than the majority. Hopfully the ones that are willing to reef the sails and come about; before the storm might save some lives of the poorest on the planet.
Tez

 

The poorest people on the planet will be the most adversely affected by the self-defeating fool's errand of draconian carbon emissions cuts or the greed/fraud driven carbon trading schemes. Neither will effect the climate in any measurable way.

Jimbo

 

Sure! But how

 

Food, Teddy, food. Draconian measures affect also food production. One example only: the diversion of corn from food to ethanol motor fuel.

 

A challenge to AGWarmists

This is anathema to the religious climate change believers. Scientific, they are not.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/global_warming_science.html

 

Let me quote again the late Northern Ireland's environment minister Sammy Wilson (I have done it already a long time ago):

He said while people in the western world were facing spiralling fuel bills as a result of efforts to cut CO2, the implications in poorer countries were graver.

“What are the problems that face us either locally and internationally. Are those not the things we should be concentrating on?” he asked.

“HIV, lack of clean water, which kills millions of people in third world countries, lack of education.

“A fraction of the money we are currently spending on climate change could actually eradicate those three problems alone, a fraction of it.



Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...e-change-is-a-con-14123972.html#ixzz0SLFlLNTA

 

More from Sammy Wilson:

"Our climate is changing; there is little doubt that global warming had taken place in the last 30 years of the 20th century. However actual evidence (not forecasted computer models) now shows us that the earth has actually been cooling since 1998.

I dispute the theory, and it is only a theory, that the world is warming due to C02 emissions and other human activity. Throughout the history of the earth temperatures have fluctuated, and we know this due to records which state that grapes used to be able to be grown in Scotland during Roman times and ice skaters could be seen on the Thames during the Victorian era. We have witnessed a period of global warming towards the end of the 20th century and we are now entering into a cooler period. These have occurred due to the natural variations in the temperature of the planet, not because of human activity.

Government policy and decision making has been heavily influenced by the green lobby, which I believe has been detrimental to the British economy. Green taxes have been levied on business and families, in the guise of promoting green behaviour, but in reality they have been stealth taxes which have hampered economic growth and made it harder for people to prosper."

More at: http://www.sammywilson.org/issues/

 

Thou the amounts of food distributed to areas suffering famine seem high, it's mostly insignificant compared to big picture. Most of food for the poorest is their own production.
Totally different situation it's in the newly urbanized areas where the some signs of "progress" allready excists.