Containerable Motorsailers

Discussion in 'Motorsailers' started by Guillermo, May 19, 2006.

  1. RHP
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    RHP Senior Member

    The boat IS the box... or is it the box IS the boat!

    Sadly there are already many examples floating round our coastlines.
     
  2. Squidly-Diddly
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    What does it cost to unload/setup this Container Yacht?

    http://www.containeryachts.com/

    Says something about "normal boatyard procedures". I'd imagine the hourly rate at boatyards at prime seasonal locations(pretty much the whole point of this boat) might vary tremendously and you could easily find yourself waiting behind those with "real money".

    Also looks like a fair amount of reasonably skilled labor involved in setting up the rigging, prop, and keel. I imagine competent labor would also be in short supply during "the season".

    I'd want something that could be launched and setup by any able bodied "one man team"(owner) without any "normal boatyard equipment" other than a tow vehicle to back it down the ramp, and a ramp.
     
  3. rwatson
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    From the FAQ for the ContainerSailer
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    What is required to unpack the FH 39 from her container and get her ready to sail?
    The procedure of unpacking the FH 39 from her container and getting her ready to cruise is a standard boatyard operation. The basic steps of the process are:

    -Pull the FH 39 out of the container.
    -Lift the yacht out with a standard yard hoist.
    -Use a fork lift to position the keel under the FH 39 and bolt it on.
    -Position and insert the rudder.
    -Bolt the saildrive on and add oil.
    -Step the mast and tighten the rigging.

    How long does it take to prep and load the container?
    Our record for container loading is six and a half hours from dock side to loaded into the container.* That time included unstepping, stripping and packing the mast, as well as keel, sail drive lower unit, and rudder removal.*
    What are the costs involved in transferring the boat?
    The use of a hoist and fork lift with manning* typically runs from $300 to $500.* The labor involved in dismantling or assembling if performed by the yard rather than the owner will typically run from $40 to $60.00 per hour.* Less than ten hours are required.

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    So, assuming all the guys and gear are available, you would need to budget about $1,000 on each end.

    Add $7,000 for the actual freight trip (USA to Europe),

    Total say $10,000 allowing for contingencies

    Versus -

    Having a boat professionally delivered from the US to Europe .......

    "The total cost for a professional delivery skipper and crew for a 10 day delivery can be $4,500-$5,500, for a 20 day delivery $8,000-$10,000."

    So, basically, to deliver to Europe from the US, you would have to allow up to 40 days, or $20,000 plus factor in extra insurance, repairs, wear and tear etc etc.

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    If the owner earned $2000 per week for the 40 days it would have taken to sail to Europe, (say 5 weeks), its paid for.

    Seems like a winning idea to me .
     
  4. RHP
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    Wow, where does the $7 grand come from? :eek:

    I'm shipping 40' containers from Santos to Shanghai for $700 usd, Busan, Kakarta, bangkok for $1,000, to Antwerp/Genoa for $1300, Mersin is probably the most expensive at $2,200.
     
  5. rwatson
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    It comes from the TrailerBoat site as a typical charge from USA to Europe, which isnt exactly on "off peak" route.

    If thats too expensive, then I guess it makes the whole process even better. Like I said before, if you can container on "backfill" routes, you do even better
     
  6. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Are those normal prices, or they reflect the present crash in containers traffic?
     
  7. Willallison
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    Also, the cost is likely to be more for a one-off customer
     
  8. Raggi_Thor
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    Raggi_Thor Nav.arch/Designer/Builder

    A company here designing steel structures for the AEC indusrty paid around 2000USD per container from China to Norway. That was a couple of years ago.
     
  9. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    "paid around 2000USD per container from China to Norway."

    Add on a couple of bucks for air fare , and you have world cruising , any season , anywhere at a very modest cost.

    FF
     
  10. Raggi_Thor
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    Raggi_Thor Nav.arch/Designer/Builder

    Make the container your cabin :)
    Like private rail coaches..
     

  11. apex1

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    Those are normal tariff, if you need a actual quotation let me know (it´s a tricky market).

    Today: port to port, 40' GENERAL PURPOSE CONTAINER, CHARLESTON, SC
    Via
    Zielhafen ROTTERDAM
    Warenart FREIGHT ALL KIND

    1.400 USD



    Regards
    Richard
     
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