fast cats

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by wannabeboater, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. wannabeboater
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  2. apex1

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    Me too Stuart, me too. I do´nt like the harsh or unpredictable acceleration. I have a bit a difficulty to describe it, but even in good conditions I do´nt feel much comfortable on a CAT. A mono can roll and pitch and yaw ´til the whole crew is knocked down, I do´nt bother.

    Mas
    you made a valuable point there! Probably we end up with a good performing mono. And who knows at 500k that could be a very capable passagemaker (even under motor), right Stu?
     
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    What? the 44 Lagoon? Some have made it round as far as I know.
     
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    the market is flooded with good usable craft, thats why I chose to design something thats not available readily
    I put 2000l of fuel in and 1600 water because I know that that is a huge issue
    and a motor that does not drink fuel Diesel as you well know, lasts forever, does not deteriorate like petrol can
    So our boat may start at Le HAVRE and cruise through to Med, not having to top off the fuel
    Then say if you went through Bg you or Slo you could top off the fuel at lower rates
    Or someone could go from Sydney to Cairns not worrying about fuel
    Although the entry on the boat does not suit big choppy seas
     
  5. wannabeboater
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    Ok, i'm looking into them, i really like them.
     
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    Ja, that was at least a start! I´ll check the EL. loads and possible arrangements tomorrow.
    Richard
     
  7. apex1

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    You know Stu, my next boat (maybe my last), long, slender, tankage ´til ultimo and a beefy, slow Diesel with a CPP. You know which one (no, not the KTM 19, the 23ltr Lugger is available). Good freeboard and a fine entry, and let the good times roll.

    Richard
     
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    If you have more questions i'll happily answer, whatever moves the search forward.
     
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    I would suggest that if you don't have experience with a catamaran it might not be a best first choice. They can get you in trouble by going faster than it should and then you hit a wave wrong and pitchpole. I won't say there aren't some out there but if you're taking kids along I'd stick with a monohull. Slower but safer. Have you looked at a CSY44? They aren't made any more but were used for bareboat charter in the Carribean and so had the amenities that are nice (like a big freezer) and very heavy and stable. I think your desire to go 20 knots is unrealistic and anything would be lucky to get 10knots. I crossed the Pacific and got an average of 4 knots over 29 days.

    A catamaran might hit 20 knots in perfect conditions but there is a big difference between racing and cruising. Slow down and enjoy the trip. Good luck.
     
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    I don't agree that monohulls are safer than cats. Maybe if the monohull is unsinkable, but there aren't many of those.

    It seems to me that it's easier to sink a monohull than it is to capsize a cruising cat, but even so, that's not why cats are safer. They're safer because they take better care of the crew. The biggest danger offshore, statistically speaking, is Man Overboard. It's easier to fall off a heeled, rolling mono than a flat-sailing stable cat.
     
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    slonez, that was my point, in the right conditions i would like to be the peak speed over 15 kts, otherwise slow&steady wins the race, i understand what your saying but im already at that point. I know the dangers and thats the reason why i want a big and steady cat, i do have the need for speed, but not in this form, i won't risk my life or my families. Another great point for safety, especially if theres kids on board-rayalridge
     
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    No cat vs mono argument

    I would be the last to start a cat vs. mono argument. I enjoy them both. I was just suggesting that if you haven't experienced adverse weather in the cat it might not be as user friendly where a mono will take care of itself better in spite of what action you might take. I would do a crossing in either tomorrow, all things being equal. No argument. Sorry. I have a 16' inboard electric tugboat designed by Berkley Eastman. A CanDoEZ. I love it and it gets lots of attention but it is "slonez".
     
  14. wannabeboater
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    Good point slonez, i love monohulls, but for now cats are on the top of my list
     

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    Sailor's Multihull Guide

    Have you read the book "Sailor's Multihull Guide to the World of Cruising Catamarans and Trimarans" by Charles Kanter and Kevin Jeffrey? It was printed in 1994 but you should be able to find it. I don't want to take anything away from other designers but this book would give you a world of ideas and help you decide what you really want. Hope you can find it.:)
     
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