Samson C-Breeze (Boxmast Fears)

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Prtndr37, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. Prtndr37
    Joined: Jan 2009
    Posts: 25
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Grand Rapids, Mi

    Prtndr37 Junior Member

    Yeah, I was referring to the free one. I did visit it, I did claim it. Below the water line(perhaps a foot visible) seemed "normal". At the water line, on the other hand, represents 25 years of freezing in each winter. B. has offered to do the tow, so as long as she lifts ok, rests on the trailer, and survives the trip, perhaps she could be a good boat too. I was not too impressed with the quality of the hull all around, expansion is apparent on the toerail joints. However, I do have a third generation mason at my disposal, so we'll see.

    J. and the MoonShadow....not too sure what his issue is. I would never conduct myself in a manner as he has. He's been at 5k, if he would take 2.5k, I would probably buy it and make one out of two, leaving mast to be constructed. Cost on sitka is 4,600, plenty of woodworkers around to assist on the job. 10k max., not 25k.

    Life is only the adventure you make it,
    Cori
     
  2. CCom54
    Joined: Feb 2009
    Posts: 12
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Farmington Hills

    CCom54 Junior Member

    You didn't see the wire mesh exposed? B. and I talked about it. His explanation was that he was told the wrong mix for the skin coat.
     
  3. Prtndr37
    Joined: Jan 2009
    Posts: 25
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Grand Rapids, Mi

    Prtndr37 Junior Member

    Well of course I saw that, he and I also talked in regards to the skim coat. His negativity regarding his advising partner was no secret. However, I do believe that him allowing her to freeze in every winter, exaggerated the problem. The damage visible would have occured to any ferro left to the ice. The fact she still floats says much to the structural integrity. The skim coat at the water line being ground away was to be expected. It's the expansion damage elsewhere that worries me.

    Curious, when did you view it, and why didn't you take it?

    Gambling man
     
  4. CCom54
    Joined: Feb 2009
    Posts: 12
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Farmington Hills

    CCom54 Junior Member

    Fold 'em on this one...

    The freebee?...I went on the first Saturday after it was listed. Why didn't I take it? Well, I think the hull (and craftsmanship) speaks for itself but then the kluged masts, rotting deck, cramped below decks that looks more like a death trap, an engine that looks to be a total loss, bad electricals, a cheap homemade woodburning stove mounted to a bulkhead... I could go on. I wouldn't waste my time and money.

    Even gambling men have to know when to fold 'em.
     
  5. CCom54
    Joined: Feb 2009
    Posts: 12
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Farmington Hills

    CCom54 Junior Member

    Congrats on the Moonshadow!!!

    Hi C.,
    Congrats on obtaining the Moonshadow!!! What a deal aye!? :D I know you'll do right by her. J offered her to me last week but the employment situation suddenly turned shaky this week and I had to decline. This boat is definitely no gamble. You and your family will enjoy it for years to come. Please send some updates along as you restore her. D and I would like to hear back. Hope the transport to your local waters goes smoothly.

    Chris
     
  6. Prtndr37
    Joined: Jan 2009
    Posts: 25
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Grand Rapids, Mi

    Prtndr37 Junior Member

    A gift...

    Hey Chris,

    I plan on starting a site as so many are interested in her "rebirth". I'll be sure to post a link here when I have it. "D." wouldn't happen to stand for Dawn, would it?

    Cori
     
  7. CCom54
    Joined: Feb 2009
    Posts: 12
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Farmington Hills

    CCom54 Junior Member

    Awesome opportunity...

    Hey Cori,

    Yep it's Dawn. She has the engine manual and wants to get it to you. J. had never gotten it from Capt. Ed. I did find a site with a good (and free) reproduction of the manual but it took some looking. There are some out there that have really bad scans. Anyways, I'm sure you'd like the original one that came with Moonshadow.

    Should be great fun to watch your progress. Good idea on setting up that site to see your postings. I envy you the journey ahead. :) Let us know when you get it set up.

    Chris
     
  8. CCom54
    Joined: Feb 2009
    Posts: 12
    Likes: 0, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: Farmington Hills

    CCom54 Junior Member

    Cori,
    Don't know if you've had a chance to respond to Dawn yet. Capt' Ed just passed away. Would be nice to hear how things are going with Moonshadow.
    Thanks.
     

  9. Dawn Wolff
    Joined: Jan 2024
    Posts: 1
    Likes: 0, Points: 1
    Location: Irish hills Mi.

    Dawn Wolff New Member

    Does anyone know how the Moonshadow is doing ? I emailed Cory years ago and he never answered. Dawn…. Daughter if the second owner and I lived aboard four years and sailed in northern Michigan on her. I sure do miss that boat. There was nothing wrong the hull that I know of. Many cosmetic patches above waterline. This boat was loved for sure by my dad. Captain Ed
     
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.