WRC / Longevity

Discussion in 'Wooden Boat Building and Restoration' started by Offshore, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. Offshore
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    Offshore Junior Member

    Hi. My wife and I are the proud owners of a Duncanson 30' Offhore Design, aptly named Offshore. We have owned her now for some 19 months. She was built in Pt, Adelade in 1989 Of Western Red Cedar and epoxy glass sheathing by Searles Boatyard. Reputable boat builders.

    We slipped her in 08/03 and antifouled her. We again slipped her in 02/04 for some maintainence to the rudder. Out of the water (02/04) we noticed that there was a small ooze / soak spot just forward / starboard side of the keel.

    On further investigation there was was a small crack in the glass aprox 2" long. We dug / bevelled an area approx 6" long and filled with epoxy.

    In the event of there being some water in the core, does any one have oppinions on how this might effect the WRC? I geuss that that the WRC was exposed for approx six months.

    Hope this question doesn't sound to much like "how long is a piecce of string" look forward to your oppinions.

    Michael
     
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  2. Offshore
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  3. pungolee
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    It would be nice if you could store your boat in a greenhouse to dry it completely,this takes up to 3 months.Fans in the bilge would facilitate this process.Attention would then be to the bilge,evidently water is pooling at the lowest point and taking the easiest way out by the keel.I do not know the thickness of your sheathing but you evidently do not believe the crack came from impact damage,rather osmosis coming from the bilge working its way through the glass.If there is evidence of hairline cracks in other areas than two things could be occurring.Frames could be loose or broken allowing the hull to "Work"causing cracks in the sheathing.Bilge pumps could be improperly installed allowing isolated pooling of water inside.Keel fill lead or other could be shifting or broken loose and require attention.After all structural issues are addressed it would be a good idea to bite the bullet and go for a barrier-coat epoxy and polyurethane paint job.
     
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  4. PAR
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    A lot more information needs be delivered for a reasonable assessment to be given.

    Is this a plank and frame yacht? Single layer (carvel) or other?

    Is this a molded boat? How many layers? frame spacing (if any)

    Is this boat considered a composite construction? In that I mean is the cedar used as a core separating an inner and outer layer of 'glass set in epoxy?

    I'm betting it's strip planked with a skin of 'glass, for abrasion resistance on the outside.

    Are any seams from the planking showing through the paint?

    By keel, do you mean the fin hanging below the craft or the timber running the length of the centerline of her?

    When was her last survey? Were there any questions about keel bolts raised? Fasteners checked?

    Has she been through a hard grounding? How long was she pounding in the tide changes during this?

    I can't see the boat as this is the usual way I find out what the real story is behind any craft I'm about to work on. You'll have to be our eyes or hire a set that knows what to look for.

    You may have an isolated abrasion that breached the coating ('glass) and some water got in. If the area wasn't really dry (15% moisture content or less) you may have just goo'd over the moisture, locking it in the planking. It could be opened back up (more then just beveling it back) allowed to dry, then re 'glassed.

    This would be nice, but it may be much worse. Get the area open at least and start the drying process. Have a skilled person, familiar with this construction technique, have a look see in the bilge. Have him sound the sheathing for delaminating, and give us a yell when you have some more info to share.
     
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  6. Offshore
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    Offshore Junior Member

    Hi.

    Thanks for the imput. Last survey was in 10/02, just before we decided to buy the boat. Survey came up ok, no moisture problems or delamination issues.

    Construction is 5/8" strip plank cedar. There are no ribs as such, the bulkheads of which there is 6 provides the support for the strip planking. The boat builder advised me that they used 20oz glass and isothalic resins and NGP gelcoat.

    The keel contains a sump for bilgewater. Displacement 2960 Kg. Fractional rig.

    regards Michael
     
    Offshore, Jul 19, 2004
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