Seeking Proto-type help with new engine design

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Keith King, Jun 26, 2004.

  1. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    The patent will protect you even after changes if they still follow the original design. As you say, there are many models and sizes for all engines. Designs usually work within a range. For example, a tire with two nylon layers work in a 13" size, for a 21.5" heavy duty it can't just have tow thicker layers. A crucial part of your idea, once it becomes technology and can be patented, is to asses the limitations. You may have to develop a series of designs. I am interested in looking into it. If you want, send me a non-disclosure agreement and we can take from there.
     
  2. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    I second Gonzo, you need to apply for protection under patent and possibly copyright (concept) protection. You can get burned quick, by the folks who have the cash to toss around at good ideas. I did 30 years ago, still pisses me off . . .
     
  3. Keith King
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    Keith King Junior Member

    Gonzo,
    I'll see if I can find a non-disclosure form. I haven't messed with this much since my injury. I built the A.W.S. self powered concrete screed in 1980 and swore I would never built for anyone else again. They made a fortune, I got an engineering bonus and a pink slip. I know I can't do this engine justice on my own. I'll get you that form.

    Keith

     
  4. Keith King
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    Keith King Junior Member

    Gonzo,
    I've found the non-disclosure form and am gathering info to send to you. I'm not a computer whiz so I'll leave my e-mail address on the site listed beside your name under the directory. Send me the info I need on how to get you the disclosure form to you at my e-mail address or tell me how to get this stuff to you.

    Keith

     
  5. Keith King
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    Keith King Junior Member

    Gonzo,I sent my e-mail address to the link posted by your name in the directory. I've found the non-disclosure form and am gathering info to send to you. Let me know how to get the form to you. I'm no computer master.

    Keith
     
  6. danmarine
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    Intellectual copy-right

    Hi Keith,
    Have been reading with interest your post here on a new engine design.

    Although I an in no position to help out in creating a proto-type, I can see some striking resemblances to the workings of Pursuit Dynamics. I would suggest you do a google search under pursuit dynamics, PDX systems ect because the company has already done 4 million GBP of research and development, and has details on the company development right through this copyright/patent stage which you are at now.

    One noticeable reference on one article involving this company is that they have copyrights and/or patents on the intellect. It seems that intellectual rights are a real commodity and in the case of Pursuit dynamics were bought for a substantial amount.
    I imagine that these are a set of theories, which are to be used in their design. By copyrighting these they are secure from other companies developing engines based on the same theories.

    Hope this helps, and looking forward to seeing further developments,

    Dan
     
  7. trouty

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    Keith,

    I grew up down the road from one of the most talented inventors ever walked gods earth, Ralph Sarich, who invented the Sarich orbital engine with only 10 moving parts and about 1/4 the weight of a conventional internal combustion engine.

    He founded Sarich Orbital Engine Technologies co...

    The interesting thing was - his engine never made it to actual production despite several lifetimes fortunes invested in it and more than 20 years of continuous development bye a whole team of well funded & talented engineers.

    The reason was it found it hard by virtue of it's unique combined piston crank design to meet the ever increasing strict emissions standards.

    In an effort to get the engine to run clean - they invented a digital electronic low pressure direct injection fuel system...

    Now Sarich ended up an exceptionally wealthy man - not because his engine ever made it to commercial production but because in order to try and make it run clean - they invented a fuel injection system that the major outboard manufacturers Mercury Marine (Brunswick corp) bought for their two stroke outboards to try and clean up their emissions standards!

    My point is - that, you may or may not ever get your marine engine prototype built, but that needent dictate whether or not your considered 'successful!'

    Sometimes life takes funny twists and you've already had your share by the look - never lose sight of the fact that sometimes life treats us the way it does for reasons we can never fathom at the time but that only ever become evident much later in life untill well after the event, when we look back upon our lives and what we achieved.

    The very best of luck to you with with your engine design.

    Cheers!
     

  8. Keith King
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    Keith King Junior Member

    Dan,
    Thanks for the input. Back in the day, when I was active in R&D, My reponsibility was to build to solve a problem. After that sales, legal and other departments took care of everything else. Trying to do this alone has been a pain. Change comes slow but I have a solid concept. Just like the steam engine, another innovation will eventually make the internal combustion engine a relic. I think this is it. Stay out of the rain!

    Keith

     
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