Iranian Fast Attack Craft

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  1. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    But do you know that there is not a torpedo strapped below the waterline? or something similarly sinister - - hidden by an innocent civilian out for some waterskiing etc...?????? With a video of that and being shot at in "open waters" - - "politically a very courageous move", - - sure to loose there....
     
  2. rednev
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    i seem to recall some crackpot called billy mitchell claiming a battleship could be sunk by aircraft of all things.
    and those israeli sailors claiming a fast missile boat sunk the eilat silly buggers
    the old styx missile has a range of 80km an attack could be launched without
    leaving the missile boats territorial waters.
    self belief is good arrogance gets people killed
     
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    I still think that a squad of attack helicopters could deal with these pretty well.
     
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    hi
    dont forget the WWII torpedo boats that the americans used to destroy jap battleships, it worked because these boats were small fast and nimble whereas the warships were slow to react because they were so large the torpedo boats would fire and run,
    result: bye bye warship

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    I´m glad they film it all.

    They should publically restate the rules of engagement then next time they play teh same game blow them out of the water. Otherwise you are not a superpower, you´re only dressed up as one.
     
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    of course the iran air defence system wouldnt bother to get involved.
    once the missile are launched the attack craft are irrelavant.
    a large proportion of defence analyst see it as agiven that iran can close the straits of hormus for a short to medium time span, they dont because they would loose more than they gain by it. however if as some predict israel
    launches a premptive strike against iran nuclear facilties before iran
    gets its new and improved russian supplied air defence system up and running
    all bets will be off.
    we live in interesting times
     
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    There is a bunch of analysis (worry) about that skirmish in Jan. Seems the ships were "within seconds" of blowing them out of the water....
    I gathered that this is a substantive threat which is cause for concern in the close waters of this Straight. One summary put it the the ultimate defensive strategy would be implemented by the support group by destroying bases of operations. "Mass".... "diverse" swarming....... yeah someone said it- the ships in the later part of WWII had to fight off swarms of Kamikaze planes. The presence of ship killer missiles shot from over the horizon makes this present threat a bit more troubling.

    rednev- interesting.... very pragmatic approach and no doubt correct. We could get stung a few times initially but once it's 'on' the can of raid comes out and no more swarm.

    From here

    http://www.eaglespeak.us/2007/09/irans-swarm-attack-tactics-in-strait-of.html :

    " During the Iran-Iraq War, the Pasdaran navy used mass swarming tactics; as a result, its forces proved vulnerable to attack by U.S. naval and air power. Because of this, it is unlikely that such tactics would be used for anything but diversionary attacks in the future. In today’s Iranian naval forces, mass swarming tactics have largely given way to dispersed swarming.

    Dispersed swarming tactics are most successful when attackers can elude detection through concealment and mobility, employ stand-off firepower, and use superior situational awareness (intelligence), enabling them to find and engage the enemy first. This accounts for a number of trends in Iranian naval force development in the past two decades. The first is the acquisition and development of small, fast weapons platforms—particularly lightly armed small boats and missile-armed fast-attack craft; extended- and long-range shore- and sea-based antiship missiles; midget and diesel attack submarines (for intelligence gathering, covert mine laying, naval special warfare, and conventional combat operations); low-signature reconnaissance and combat unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs); and the adaptation of the Shahab-3 medium-range surface-to-surface missile armed with a cluster warhead reportedly carrying 1,400 bomblets, for use against enemy naval bases and carrier battle groups.

    Iran has also sought to improve its ability to achieve surprise by employing low-observable technologies (such as radar-absorbent paints), strict communications discipline, stringent emissions control measures, passively or autonomously guided weapons systems (such as the Kowsar series of television-guided antiship missiles), and sophisticated command-and-control arrangements. To support its naval swarm tactics, Iran has encouraged decentralized decisionmaking and initiative, as well as autonomy and self-sufficiency among naval combat elements.
    Dispersed swarming? Adm Cosgrove has it right - a coordinated attack is difficult to conceal and an uncoordinated attack can lead to forces being defeated seriatim."
     
  8. kach22i
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    Interesting image, I want to know more.

    It's from here:
    http://www.aviapress.com/

    Are those WWII German PT boats?

    EDIT: - RARE!

    http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?ARM-019
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    More photos in link.:)
     
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    Kach, you could also look for some reading about italian MAS fleet, WWI and WWII, if you're interested in military history.
     
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    Stealth?

     
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    Full circle:

    Post by PLANEMAN..SEVERAL PHOTOS
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=129340
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    More posts by planeman
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    nice for pirate hunting.
     
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