4 Meter mono foiler project

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by wind_apparent, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. wind_apparent
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    wind_apparent wind driven speed addict

    Doug.

    I have an idea, I plan on having my boat finished about the beginning of June (give or take) I also hope to make a trip to the Gorge in August, I propose that I build my boat as its designed right now, and you build your boat as its designed right now, and we race..........in the Gorge, in August, during the Moth world champs, 5 race series, ( I won't even use my podded training wheels because they are against the rules for the SR-71 class). what do you say?
     
  2. Doug Lord

    Doug Lord Guest

    The boat I'm building is a bit different than the one in the pictures and sketches but I'll race you in sunny Florida!
     
  3. wind_apparent
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    wind_apparent wind driven speed addict

    what, not at the gorge during the biggest monofoiler event in the world? This is your chance to prove all your pet theories in front of the whole foiling community. It would give you something "real" to hype, I would think you would jump at the chance. :D
     
  4. Doug Lord

    Doug Lord Guest

    Think so,huh.....
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    PS-did you say "pet theories"?! Interesting.
     
  5. wind_apparent
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    just trying to gode you into coming out to race..:D , (only ones i don't agree with are gantry, midships wand, and skipper controlled main foil, build a boat that proves your points and I might buy in).
     
  6. Doug Lord

    Doug Lord Guest

    It would be an excellent venue without a doubt but it may be too little time to get debugged and skilled up-and for me- too much money(probably). But we'll see....
     
  7. wind_apparent
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    wind_apparent wind driven speed addict

    I go to St. Simons Island, GA to visit family a couple times a year, I don't think I would make a special trip, but I'm sure something could be arranged if I was in the area and had my boat with me.
     
  8. foilman24
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    My guess is because he can't design (as you pointed out), can't build, (have you seen the aeroturd?) and probably can't sail very well either, (which is probably why he won't race wind apparent).
     
  9. Chris Ostlind

    Chris Ostlind Previous Member

    Not the strong suit


    Since when?

    Doug as meteorologist... 0

    TS Fay....................... 9 million inches and counting
     
  10. Chris Ostlind

    Chris Ostlind Previous Member

    So, have a Wii style race where the most potent boat is the one where the owner talks the most, gestures the most... and all without a foiling hull in sight.

    I'll take 20-1 odds on Lord, right now. ;-)
     
  11. foilman24
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    spot on, except I will be in the Gorge, and I will be foiling. ;) (on my moth ha ha)
     
  12. Paul B

    Paul B Previous Member

    Now that's not a nice thing to say about my mother. If she wasn't already worm food she might just stop by and box your ears.

    I could reply with reference to the chorus of the great Misfits song WHERE EAGLES DARE, but a lump like you would never get it.

    Too bad, a handful of ritalin, some Misfits cranked to 11, and a pair of Doc Martens to march around your room in might have normalized you a bit.

    But seriously, back to design, how is it a "designer" such as yourself can't do his own drawings?

    Wow, looky how smart your are. Somehow, with all that brain power you still couldn't get your "foiler" to foil, and your next project remains a pile of scrap after how many years?


    Want to impress the world? Do what WA is doing, design something yourself, listen to input from outsiders, rake through the opinions until it makes sense to you, then build it and sail it.

    We all know that will never happen.
     
  13. wind_apparent
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    wind_apparent wind driven speed addict

    So will I. (If my wife lets me :rolleyes:)

    funny how fast this place destabilised as soon as SA went offline...
     
  14. bistros

    bistros Previous Member

    There is just no point in administering playground justice to Doug. All it does is get him riled up and then we see twice as much re-posting and old photos accompanied by capital letters and personal attacks.

    Wind Apparent has got a lot of work in front of him, and at this point he doesn't need the distraction. I'm sure he'll post questions when he encounters issues - like he did asking about pre-drilling the corecell foam. I hope we can keep this on topic, because I'm learning a lot from the experience. I've not vacuum bagged a build, and this is a great opportunity for me to learn a lot about an essential skill from someone in the same shoes as I.

    Doug, best of luck with your build. I hope you too can start a thread about your build, and share the process with everyone. Although at times it may seem you against the world, you could quickly turn the situation around by being one of the people here that asks for help and receives advice. Nothing will gain respect more than pictures of progress - even failures and crash & burns. It really doesn't matter whether your foiler actually meets every objective, or if it even flies. What matters is trying.

    Sam has done a great job trying to keep interpersonal issues off the table here - I've deleted a post that would have caused another round of crap just yesterday. Let's respect the forum and Sam's wishes.

    Cheers,

    Bill
    (I'm sailing tomorrow afternoon - hope there is wind!)
     

  15. Chris Ostlind

    Chris Ostlind Previous Member

    The Cat has left the building


    Me too, except I will be premiering my new foiling Tevas. Yes, folks, it can now be said out loud. The reason that I've been so quiet of late is that I have been hard at work in the shop developing my new foiling Karnali Raptor Teva watershoes.

    A nicely matched pair of foils have been bonded into the manmade materials of the radical self-draining soles and with a perfectly sized rig, I can successfully foil with total convulsive impunity.

    You guys worry about wands, midship huzzahs and gantrys all you want. Due to the magic of the human brain, I can keep my foils running at the perfect attitude no matter the wave slope, direction of travel or conditions present.

    My lift-off speed is .5 knots (lower when I get into better shape) and right now, top speed is classified under a Proto-Cosmic clearance on a need to know basis, and you guessed it....

    I will reveal that I have recently added a vestigial hull form that trails in my near wakeless operating condition to qualify me as a sailing watercraft. Not saying how big or how far aft it trails, but it is there. Another little bit and I'm afraid I'll have to shut this thing down...

    The trailing vestige has a distinctly unique performance capacity.

    Sorry to Sam for the temporary hijack, which up until recently was a nearly flawless thread.

    Signing out from the Hi-Tech studios of Lunada Design.
     
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