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Bugis Ketch for sale

Discussion in 'Marketplace' started by Neven, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. James
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    James Junior Member

    the right direction

    Neven,
    that sounds great. Do you have some photos, I checked the promaritime page and didint see the vessel. I was looking for something a little closer to seventy feet, but for sixty US, this is very acceptable. Are there any more traditional vessels in your listings?
    regards
    JPW
     
  2. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    I sent you already photos to your mail account together with the price list for the turkish boats. Sorry, I do not have more than these and also no other Bugis vessel available.

    If you didn't receive my mail please send me an actual mail address to: neven@promaritim.com

    Regards
     

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  3. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    Dear Mr. Ward,

    I got a short note from Eddy:

    About ours, do you think that Mr Ward knows about the last investments we did, and every thing work perfectly
    Actually the euro is 1 to 1.19 usd, average rate, not receiving transfert.
    I have to sail for few days tomorrow and i will give you my answer after that, i know that if the offer was close to the asking price i will say yes directly.
    Keep in touch
    Regards
     
  4. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    Dear Mr. Ward,

    Eddy agreed on the $100.000 and is ready to show you the boat from the 6th of January on. I sent you addtional photos to your old mail address. I would be nice if you could confirm that you received it.

    Kind Regards
     
  5. James
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    James Junior Member

    ketch

    Neven,
    fantastic. I have not recieved the photos however. My email address is Morlock9@hotmail.com. I will be looking for the photos.
    regards,
    JPW
     
  6. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    I have sent you the photos to exactly this address. If you do not received it I will resend.

    Regards
     
  7. oddball
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    oddball Junior Member

    james your hotmail addy maynot allow files over a certain size, or your mail box is full you should check
     
  8. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    Thanks oddball. Yes, Hotmail is a bit miserly with its 2MB!

    I try to upload the photos here.
     

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  9. bwanabrad

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    Bugis Ketch 4 sale

    l will be in Phuket on Jan 20 & 21, any chance of talking to someone about this boat or taking a look at it on either of those dates ?
     
  10. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

  11. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    Sampai Jumpa is sold!

    Sorry! But other Bugis vessels are available. Please visit our site www.promaritime.com.
     
  12. poetprince
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    having spent considerable time in indonesia
    and especially sulawesi and the spice islands
    doing a study on traditional boatbuilders
    and sailing on
    i would contend
    that although this is definitely a ketch built in the 1990's
    that the 'long history' of these boats
    and the Bugis
    should be categorized as Bugis Pinisi Schooners
    or more commonly as Makassar Schooners
    taken from the name of the provincial capital in South Sulawesi
    there are many of these types of boats still working the waters
    the one i sailed on for many months was a 75 footer
    and mainly used as an inter island cargo vessel
    if you're really interested in them i could halp you with further research
    if you're interested in owning one
    you can buy one for much less than $100,000usd
    mind you that would not include the extensive equipment list mentioned here
    but you could outfit it yourself to your own specs and still come out ahead
    the other option is to have one built right there
    i could also help with that
    although i feel bad mentioning such a thing
    as this is not an attempt to hijack the original thread
    please feel free to contact me here
    and we can discuss matters further

    ~poetprince
     
  13. Neven
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    Neven Junior Member

    New build

    No worries of hijacking the thread ;) !

    But some comments may be allowed:

    You will not get a 75’ footer on Sulawesi for “much” less than $ 100.000 although you can get it for around $ 100.000. But you will have to stay a considerable time yourself in the country, which will cost money, and you have to know how to deal with the locals in order not to get cheated. In addition, the export of such a vessel is only “half-legal” without EPTIK license and one should know how to bring it out of the country afterwards.

    We offer project management for new build of these vessels. To give an example of the costs (contract recently signed between a customer from Austria and us):

    VESSEL FEATURES

    Traditional Pinisi Schooner
    LOA 25 meters
    Beam 5.8 – 5.9 meters
    Draft 2-3 meters
    Main Marine or Marinized Engine 200hp x 1
    240hp-Turbo charged 6 cyl 2000 rpm (Possible)
    GENSET with Panel 35-58hp generating 15 KVA + backup power source from vessels Main Engine
    Chinese Gear Box 6-1 or appropriate ratio
    Steering & System Hydraulic
    Rudder & Shaft assembly Steel – Shaft Stainless
    Stuffing Box & 4 blade prop Quality
    Main Anchor Winch Electric or Hydraulic
    Main Engine Panel Basic
    Radar 15nm Small (15 to 34nm Range)
    Communications SSB or Sat phone + VHF
    Depth Sounder Basic
    Compass Basic
    GPS – Plotter Basic
    Running Lights Basic
    Search Light Basic
    Halogen Deck Flood Light System Basic
    Bilge System 3 units 2000 GPH
    Engine Ventilators 4 units
    Fire Safety Equipment On standard
    Fuel Tank Steel Capacity 5 Tons
    Water Tank Steel & Sealed 5 Tons
    Tool Kit Basic
    Muffler & Water Lock Professional
    Water Intake & Output Systems 6 points +
    Electric Stove & Burner
    Reverse Cycle A/C & Heat 1 unit 70,000 BTU or 2 units 35,000 BTU
    2 Fridges / 1 Freezer / Dishwasher Electric
    Stainless Sink & PVC Supplies
    Ceramic WC x 3
    24 electrical wire system High Capacity
    220 volt electric wire system High Capacity
    Battery System & Bat Charger High Capacity
    Plate Glass windows
    8 x 12inch port holes Brass
    Deck hardware Stainless
    Rope Appropriate
    Cable, clamps & turn-buckles Galvanized
    Sail’s Heavy Canvas
    Plastic Plates and Plastic Glasses (For positioning cruise)
    One Coat Wood Primer Exterior
    Nippon Marine Paints
    Anti-fouling
    Bow & Stern Thrusters Large
    Water Heater Electric
    Pressurized Water System Electric Powered 220v & 24v


    The targeted and budgeted cost of this project is set at 1,030,000,000 IDR, based on today’s BBR of Indonesian Rupiah of 10,550 IDR to 1 Euro (around US$ 118.000).

    This price includes full project management as described:

    A. Fine tone the construction estimate on the Pinisi Project
    B. Builder Selection and wood stock approval.
    C. Administration of payments to the builder
    - 33.3% of project cost on builder contract (5000 Euro Confirmed as paid)
    - 33.3% of Project cost at 5 months
    - Balance of Project cost before launch
    D. Assistance in Design of vessel and interior
    E. Supervision of construction process with photo updates documenting the project process.
    F. Administration of required documentation of the constructed vessel.
    G. Arrange the CIQP & CAIT (Cruising Permit) for the completed foreign flagged vessel to depart Indonesia. 3 month cruising permit cost 200 Euro.
    H. Assistance in crew selection for the position cruise to the MED
     
  14. poetprince
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    thank you neven
    you iterated some of the issues i intended to bring up
    such as dealing with locals
    and also export licensing
    it's good to know there are qualified and gracious people out there
    especially those willing to share up to date and pertinent information
    if i can be of any further help
    in areas concerning boatbuilding and/or nautical history
    please feel free to contact me anytime

    ~poetprince
     

  15. blueskyonmars
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    blueskyonmars New Member

    i would like to know more about the process i would have to go threw to have a pinisi schooner built in suliwesi for less that 100000 usd . I have talked to a few people and have gotten the run around from quite a few people that said they would help me start the project. Thee are two things that would have to be done to my standards one is motor mounts two the hull inside and out would hav to be glass coated befor the boat ever entered the water.
     
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