What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    well Im not likely to speak out against the one person on here who seems to be in support of what is
    an other wise
    no brainier
    but
    I gotta admit
    Im dog sick of hippies
    hippies hid in the university setting cause it gave them a way out of a war
    I can dig that
    but it gave the university a bad name
    in that it led people to believe that the university was a political statement
    its not
    politics has no more place in the educational setting
    than a dog in an opera
     
  2. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    your thinking of the FAKE hippies,,,the "wannabe's" ,,real hippies believe in no war,,or harming,,,,but they also fight next to the farm boys during war,,,,i have ALOT of hippie friends that are in the service,,,,,,,,and even though i cant stand the people that HID from the war,,,,,,,,where did all the non-hippies hide?,,ya know,, the rich peoples kids?,,,ohhh,,, thats right,,they ran out of country to canada,,,,,,,and even saying that hippies "back then" are anything like hippies now is wrong,,,,,is like saying noone has changed since 1965,,,,,do doctors think the same as they did back then?how bout our fiberglassing techniques??,, are the old glassers the same and think the same as the new glassers?,,, you guys are just stereotyping,,,which in this day and age we should know that IT doesnt work,,,,,,,kinda like when the public gets pissy bout cops do it to us. kinda like gender bias,,,,,and all others,,,,,,,now i know a few IDIOTS that mess with metal,,,and i mean they are IDIOTS to the fullest,,,and here in the oilfields,,welders are a dime a dozen,,,and the MAJORITY are total idiots,,,,,so,,, by you guyses standards,,,i should think metal workers are ALL IDIOTS?
     
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    My case in point: Al Gore, who preaches environmental friendliness whilst flying around in a private jet and using more electricity in a month living in his "green" house than 10 average households use in a year.

    And I find people who have to react in such manner as yours when somebody offers a different point of view to be extremely immature and impolite. I'm sure we can all share point of views in an educated manner.

    Also, my comment was in no way saying smokestacks and poisons don't hurt the earth. My apology for the not stating what I meant by hippie.
     
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    the1much hippie dreams

    hahahaha,,free,,,,al isnt a hippie,,,he's a politician that makes money saying what people wanna hear,,,hahahaha :D:D:D
     
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    and like its been said a million times,,,,either side can find idiotic radicals on the other side,,,you pick gore,,,,, i pick the so called geniuses that say we're not doing ANY harm to the earth.,,,, so give me the excuses that the "non-hippie" side has for their radicals and idiots.
     
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    No, the people who think we shouldn't conserve resources are idiots.
     
  7. Boston

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    ya Im guilty
    I just have trouble with what passes for hippies round here
    kinda drives me nuts
    some filthy punk who figures they got it down
    when in the end they know about enough to be dangerous
    and have no clue of middle ground

    as apposed to the opposite spectrum of folks
    the pseudo scientists
    speaking what the man tells him to speak
    blindly
    long enough that that man finally believes it himself

    check this
    we are on the edge of an extinction event
    all the cards are in place
    and are falling fast
    there's not much of an argument about that

    why they cards are falling is another question
    but does that really mater

    its like staying in a burning building
    arguing who set the blaze
    just long enough to die of asphyxiation

    stupid

    we can change the direction of the fall
    if we try
    maybe not prevent it
    but maybe make it a lot more palatable
    should we
    or is it more important to determine who set the fire

    industry
    and the public
    have got to find middle ground

    those hippie types
    tend to be relatively intransigent
    as well as the industrialists

    thats not a formula for change

    and we dont have time for that
     
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    What we need is to have people who are educated running the show, not politicians with the aim of simply pleasing green voters.

    e.g. improving public transport whilst, at the same time, working with automakers to develop environmentally friendly cars. Personal transport will always coexist with public transport. Its about using resources smartly (e.g. don't drive when you can walk to somewhere close).
     
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    the1much hippie dreams

    ive said it a few hundred times on this thread,,,but,,, no matter what, we're gonna go through the mass kill off,,,,its nature to start again,,,,we've had 1 huge kill off... and many small ones,,,and we WILL have another big 1 soon,,,theres nothing we can do bout it,,,,,,
    what we CAN do,,,is postpone it ( because we HAVE made it come faster then it should) and we can make it easier for the earth to "recover" after,,,,even though we wont be here,,hehe,,,,
    and its not WHAT we're putting in the enviro. that harming us the most,,,because alot of that "stuff" does occur naturally,,,,,,but its the AMOUNT we're putting in,,,,,,,,,like per. always saying,,,,look at volcanoes,,,( these numbers are just numbers to show something,,,NOT real numbers) say in 1000 years the earth spits out clouds of toxic gas from em,,,,lets say 100 tons of yuck,,,,,well,,,, the earth is used to that,,,it happens almost every day,,,,,so 100 tons aint no biggie to earth,,,it can handle a thousand of tons at once and deal with it,,,,,,,well,,,today WE"RE putting in 975 tons,,,then,,,opps,, a volcano went off,, and splurt another 100 tons,,,,,uhoh,,,, now we're up to 1075 tons today,,,,thats 75 more then we can handle,,,,BUT IT WAS NATURAL,,,,the volcano didnt harm us,,,it did what it was SUPPOSE to do,,,,, so what put us over the safe amount?
     
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    the1much hippie dreams

    sad thing is,,,,, most the radicals are educated,,,,book smats just a cover-up for people who are lazy,,,hehe :D
    both sides have their experts,,,,and both sides play with whatever # helps their cause.
     
  11. Boston

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    so again the question
    how do we conserve resources
    when to do so
    feeds less people
    than to not do so

    for instance
    the salmon fishery on the west coast just collapsed for a reason
    without going into it
    it bodes ill for the hole industry
    and I mean fish farming industry not just salmon

    we do not have a great substitute for the protein we have mined from the sea

    its running out

    what do we do

    what resources can we conserve
    we can pollute less
    sure
    but can we eat less
    or bread less

    does that reality make us anti human
    or realist

    how do we join together and prevent the loss of our oceans

    there is no effective governing body watching over the oceans
    its a free for all

    we are on the brink
    we have a choice

    what we dont have is middle ground

    without at least realizing we are on the edge
    and most people are oblivious
    how do we fix this

    hint
    the key element is saving the oceans
     
  12. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    the "key" is BIRTH CONTROL
    nother thing on educated people,,,,,,,,,they use numbers to disguise they have NO common sense. and yes im talking bout ANY side,,hehe ;)
     
  13. Boston

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    all good but to little to late
    the globe it warming
    the ocean currents slowing down
    people are multiplying
    food is not
    fish are on the brink
    it takes 260 lbs of grain to make one tank of gas
    thats enough food to feed a man for a year
    so
    how is taking the buss going to fix this

    its not
    is it radical to say
    we need to do more
     
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    the1much hippie dreams

    nature is suppose to be "the strong survive,,,,the sick weak and stupid animals are suppose to be eatin, or killed, or let to die,,,,,,,,,,,,we're the ONLY animal that dont live by that rule,,,,,,,we PROTECT idiots and the weak,,,,,,,hence our pollutants are WAY higher then they should be. killing off a few billion people should be all thats needed for humans to survive,,,,,,,but,,,,thats common sense,,,so it'll work, but we cant let that happen,,,heh
     

  15. Boston

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    bingo
    now
    why is it you think the w.h.o. demanded all Africans get inoculated
    and then failed to provide the same number of needles as doses of inoculate
    resulting it 3/4 Africans with aids getting it from needle contamination
     
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