Tool for efficient deck sanding

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by GWB, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. Kaptin-Jer
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    Kaptin-Jer Semi-Pro

    Jim thats my rolled and tipped wonder.
     
  2. the1much
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    i think jeffs trying to sell this boat!
     
  3. the1much
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    noooo,,,,something was wrong with either my puter ( not likely) or the site,,,,,every time someone quoted someone else,,,there was a pic of another boat hehe,,,i know what your work looks like :D
    it was the boat on this page,,,,the pic with the fence in it hehe
    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21498
     
  4. longliner45
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    yes Im a little bit lazy,,I like to let the sander do the work ,,but you are right if you have curves,,,my deck is plywood,,,,,,but the monster is hell for anything else,,longliner
     
  5. Kaptin-Jer
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    Longliner,
    (I get nostalgic when I see that name, My good friend was a real longliner out of Mantauk (sp?), New York, He died of cancer two years ago-miss his stories)

    I own a "monster" belt sander too, but the more I learned the less I used it. Now I keep it clamped to the work table upside down and I have been using it that way as a table belt sander for the past 2 years. When I use a machine I use my 6" Festool.
     
  6. fleetwing
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    fleetwing sea salt

    If you have teak deck , do it the ol fashioned way, Holy stone:)
    for teak decks I use a traditional approach to care and maintain them but it takes some elbow grease... but cleans the teak real well If you happen to live near an airport you know what the airplane fuel does to a boat...
    materials: a bucket, Bronze wool (steel wool leaves little extra that rusts), Arm and hammer super washing soda or any suitable bicarbonate soda detergent, T.S.P. (tri-sodium phosphate) , And some simple green industrial grade. and or Oxy clean.
    Plan: mix the detergents together, easy on the tsp, Scrub the teak with the grain in one direction with the grain of the wood, using the bronze wool,
    what this does is allow for the dirt to get out of the grain the it will create a peach fuzz on the wood. rinse well , use a good quality teak bleach, two part follow directions. allow for the deck to dry for 48 hours or more in sunlight, to dry out to almost Grey. then sand the hell out of it with 80 grit paper, the smooth with 120 grit. Do not go any higher with the sanding grit, 120 would be the maximum, any more would make the decks too slippery. Use what ever deck oil and or teak coating you prefer.
    the same cleaning solution will also clean tired gel coat as well, and use flood products , to rejuvenate the gel coat.
     
  7. the1much
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    hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,see kapt. sometimes i can just "hush" ;)
     
  8. GWB
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    Another question:
    Maintaining a wet edge has been mentioned a few times. How long will the edge stay wet? My boat has an 11' beam, so counting the cabin about 14' of edge will have to be wet while I roll and tip.

    Also, does anybody know of a video that shows someone rolling and tipping?

    Thanks for all the info on this thread
     
  9. the1much
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    see kapt.,,,,,,and you said i was just a pervert when i asked if i could bring my video camera heh ;)
    and your edge should stay wet long enough for you to get around,,,,but to be safe,,start at ya transom on a corner,,,start up ya hull,,,when ya get to the bow, go back and do the transom to the other corner, then go back to bow and work ya way down to the transom corner you just stopped at.,,,,,but take my advice with a grain of salt,,and wait for Kapt. to answer ya,,,,he's the snail painting expert :D
    and i think i need to go back,,,,,are ya painting deck or hull ,,hehehe,,,,man i cant believe its meds. time already ;)
    but if its deck,,,,it basically works same way,,,heh,,,maybe ;)
     
  10. Kaptin-Jer
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    Jim, It sounds like time to post the pictures.

    I Don't have a video, but a few years ago Ship Shape TV did a show on roll and tip - awl grip - not too bad, I do it a little different, but you might be able to pick up a tape of the show at West Marine or Big Mouth.

    I do not go further that 8" (2 passes with the 4" roller) before I tip. Always in the same direction. Never stop, never go back.
     
  11. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    heres the BEST roll and tip jobs i've seen
     

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  12. Kaptin-Jer
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    Thanks Jim, Here's some more. This is a 1989 Beneteau, Sunk in a hurricane, split in half and rolled. I paid $800.00 for it. It's taken 3 years to get to this point.
     

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    A couple of years ago i was working on a Cherubini 44 which had been sprayed with awlgrip when new,the year prior to me laying new decks one side had been scratched up so the marina repainted that side only,since osha dosnt allow them to spray they roll and tipped it with awlgrip,i didnt know which side had been so i took a walk around it,the only way i could be sure which side was which was the orange peel on the sprayed side,the rolled side was much better,i was very impressed.
    Steve.
     
  14. Kaptin-Jer
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    Belive me, you can get orange peel , crawling, and all the other nasties that the paint gods can throw at you when roll & tipping too. I have seen them all.
     

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    kaptin jer ..did you have to wet sand it?? I think maybe ,,but you know something I dont ,,,,,it looks great,,I am working a ice storm now ,,and will have more time ,later ,,longliner
     
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