3D hull and equipment models from the internet

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  1. archnav.de
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    archnav.de Senior Member

    bnautika,

    Normally we try to work always via step AP214, when we dealing with CAD-files and try to make them such as robust that there are no difficulties to work with in different CAD-Systems. Beside the Step file we produce an ACIS 4.0 file for AutoCAD and other ACIS based software. The second large geometric kernel is Parasolid (UG, SolidWorks, Microstation, SolidEdge). So that is why we involve in .zip files these three files and other documents.

    In respect with PDF for us the marketing aspect is not so important, but the distribution of documents, drawings and 3D-Models via a certificated und secured file.


    The basefor the new 3D-PDF file is the PRC-Format.
    For the long run the PRC-file, a kind of compressed STEP AP214 file, could play an important rule in the distribution of CAD-Models. We will wait and see.

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    Bernd I tried opening the step file using rhino and solid works. Solid works wouldn’t open it , RhinoV2 did . If you don’t mind me asking what size was the models file in its native file format.
     
  3. archnav.de
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    bnautika,
    Please tell me the name of the file you tried to open, so that we have the same example.

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    Bernd the file was PCM-H-457_rev1_.stp
     
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    The file name could be:

    PCM-5015-H-457_rev1_.stp
    PCM-5016-H-457_rev1_.stp
    or
    PCM-5017-H-457_rev1_.stp
     
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    Sorry bernd PCM-5015-H –457_rev1_.stp
    PCM-5016-H –457_rev1_.stp
    Both would not open in solidworks but did in rhinoV2
     
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    Anybody try eDrawings?

    Have you guys tried the free eDrawings 3D viewer from SolidWorks? You can find more information and download here http://www.solidwork.com/pages/products/edrawings/eDrawings.html

    The eDrawings publisher can be used to create a few different file types, an edrw file which requires the end user to have already installed the eDrawing viewer software or you can create a self executing edrawing file so that the user does not need to download and install anything. If you require the eDrawings professional version allows the ability to enable or disable the users ability to the measure and can also password enable to viewer file to protect your designs. There is also the ability to create an html file so that you can add to your web site and of course plenty of tools to markup and red line the edrawing file so that two users can collaborate on a design. Can also of course do all the "normal" pan, zoom, rotate, hide exterior components so as to see interior, set individual components to transparent so user can see through them but still see the transparent components shape. Can also create dynamic section views by dragging a plan through the design and the plan will section as the user drags.

    I think the one benefit of the Adobe 3D program is the ability to format as a brochure and easily add text, this might be accomplished with edrawings as well by embedding into a word doc but I have never tried.

    Maybe give it a try, just be sure to download the correct software per your CAD program. Oh yeah, it can also view native dxf and dwg files as well.

    Sam
     
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    I have no problems with SolidWorks 2005, but some with Rhino 4.0. (Wrong solids in 5015)
    The problems with Rhino are quite normal; because Rhino is more surfaces based and in this sense extremely good, but have some problems with solids. So Rhino is great for surfaces and iges-files.

    For equipment exchange, we are looking more forward for solids, assembly structure and other information. There is STEP AP214 the best.


    Cheers

    Bernd
     
  9. archnav.de
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    Our strategy is quite clear, for documents incl. their certification PDF is the international standard and available on all computers. For 3D-Models STEP-AP214, Acis or Parasolid are the best for the exchange between CAD-Systems.

    So the first step was, that we decided to involve in PDF-documents via a link and a .zip-file 3D-models in the above mentioned formats.

    Since Acrobat 8.1 there is involved a very good 3-D viewer and the new possibility of the PRC format.
    Now everyone has enough instruments to explore documents und 3D-models via PDF-files. There is no need for other possibilities, because to work with the models you need always in the end our own CAD-system.


    Cheers

    Bernd
     
  10. bhnautika
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    Bernd I finally got your file into solidworks by filtering it through RhinoV2, exporting it as a IGES file for SW surfaces. There seems be two types of uses that we are talking about, the high end, needing as much information as possible for construction and manufacture or the other end that just want simple models to show layouts and for rendering. Also the difference between the need for solids over surfaces.
     
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    SamS Yes have used edrawings 3d fantastic on something’s not so good on others, trimmed nurbs don’t always make it.
     
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    At the end there should be one model for the different uses. From my point of view is that a STEP AP214 file, involving surfaces, solids, assembly structure and so on.

    In my case I have produced the .stp file with SolidWorks 2005 so I'm completly astonished, that you can't open it. This was never reported up to now. But never the less, in the case of SolidWorks you can try the .x_t file, because Parasolid is the Kernel of that CAD-system.
     
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