3D hull and equipment models from the internet

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  1. archnav.de
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    archnav.de Senior Member

    If we agree, that this is the solution we are looking for, then we should develop a strategy to get the boat equipment suppliers on the road to do so.

    Yipster, do you have any connections towards Vetus or others in Holland?

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    Bernd
     
  2. yipster
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    since about everyone uses acrobat i'm glad to see it working but have to make one free test pdf 8.1 to see what is all possible

    do think 3d support should be actually in windows and wrote microsoft years back about these things as it still does not even carry a virus scanner

    i more than agree on using pallets and libraries, boat equipment too when possible ( long as experts stick the more serious drawings together ;-)

    have a good day and i second your quest
     
  3. archnav.de
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    The Acrobat Reader 8.1 is of course free for anyone, but to create a 3D-PDF file you have to use the expensive Acrobat 3D software. You can download a 30day trial version from the Adobe side. If you have done so, we should further communicate on this topic.

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    my first pdf ever and in 3d, well sort of a test, used a concept and like to see if some vaque obscure pics together with all the balony with errors is visible, i know, its messy, i'm inpatient
    3d acrobat pdf v8.1 has a little learning curve, even in the viewer, having a hard time to pan or find back the model, maybe its becouse i rush things, anyway, later further ah, and must say i was more impressed, mayby still am with vrml in 92 and 97
     

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    So never the less, your 3D-pdf file is a very good starting point, with all the different information, documents, links and models. To make it perfect is only a question of time.

    One little tip, it is better to use the second bottom from left to turn the model. Zooming could be done with the wheelhouse. In this way your first model works very well. Further on you could define previews during the creation of the file.

    In the other cases there must be something beside the model, so that the centre of the 3D-box is fare way from the model. Something like a large plane or so.


    Cheers

    Bernd


    I hope others will also join the discussion.
     
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    Hey Yipster,

    it is much simpler to discover your models then I thought.
    Open the assembly tree completly, zoom a part with a right click selection and then turn and zoom it. Enjoy it.

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    Bernd I have looked at some of the information on adobe acrobat 3D from their web site and on the face of it looks promising for a conversion/delivery system. I think the take up rate for small uses may be slow due to the cost and in the end you still end up with a iges or step file and how your own native cad handles that file type. Also this system will work for supplier data but might be a problem for peer to peer if your cad is not supported.
     
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    bhnautika,
    Thank you very much joining the discussion. The first and most important item is, that there is available, with the free new Acorabat Reader 8.1, a CAD-Viewer on all computers. The viewer is working great in all aspects.

    Have you installed already Acrobat reader 8.1?

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    i come to like the acad type of dimension tool in the pdf 3d viewer witch enables full scale 3d sizing
     
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    Yipster
    What did you mean by acad type of dimension tool?

    Cheers

    Bernd
     
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    much more seems possible but i like the 3d dim tool in peticular
    here a sample screenschot in meters
     

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    so i can even size your bolts and nuts :D
     

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    But this is up to now only available in the expensive Acrobat 3D.

    Have you explored how to navigate with the assembly tree? Zoom to a part, turn around with the part in the middle?

    Cheers

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    Bernd I downloaded Acrobat 8.1 and seems to work as advertised. I think it has great potential as a marketing tool. Giving people the ability to interact with 3d models.
    The Step file that was zipped, how was that done? Was it done with acrobat 3d or the normal way.
     
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