TP52s

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by mighetto, Nov 1, 2004.

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  1. DGreenwood
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    Umm...you/we are his imaginary friends. And although I have never owned or sailed one, I have been on one (blushing)
     
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    I'd rather sail up on a TP52 and watch the girls jump ship. :D :D :D
     
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    You could probably get them to jump ship if you sailed up on a 21' Bayliner Buccaneer.
     
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    what are the 2 things behind the ladys that look like giant sinks or small jacuzzis?
     
  7. mighetto
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    God bless after 22 years one of the oldest records in ocean racing (I actually know of no longer one) just was broken. Please tell me you know which record that was. Hint. MacGregor 65.

    http://www.pv07.com/releases/022707_mdr.php

    Quick report from New Orleans Yacht club. The locals do not think the Katrina fire purposeful. However the Municipal Yacht Club is rebuilt and NOYC looks mighty sad. Did you know that in the 20s the red light district was in the park next to New Orleans Yacht Club? I didn't. Anyway none of the restaurants nearby are likely to ever be rebuilt. Might as well join Municipal. I observed several sailboats off "the point". Kiss Kiss. Things will get back to normal. Was offered a ride on a Tripp 30. Hope to do so.

    Frank L Mighetto
    Hush Hush I am he whose name should not be mentioned. :) :)
     
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    SailDesign Old Phart! Stay upwind..

    If that is your prime reason for not joining a particular club, it explains a lot.....
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  9. mighetto
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    You lads from RI. So funny. No smiley. Actually I am a member of the Blue Water Yacht Club as well as US Sailing and South Sound Sailing Society and of course the fraternity known as the Sea Scouts. (Quartermaster). I am not against Yacht Clubs. I am against Golf Clubs:)

    Did you notice that Sailing Anarchy Incorporated (yes its a corporation) is starting a Yacht Club. God Bless um for the invitation. $10 bucks and I already have the burgee. But there is also Latitudes and Attitudes. Why do folks join clubs? If you are a sailor you already belong. Even an abrasive fellow such as I is welcome. You aren't crashing any party by showing up for a race.

    If at all possible, I would like US Sailing to move from RI to the West Coast. Its that system of patronage where the sons and daughters of the privileged get a nod that bothers me. In a day of Bethwaite simulators it should be obvious which of the young potentials is worthy and which just are in the Olympics program owing to birth right. The sport has suffered way to long owing to prevalent attitudes regarding who plays. That doesn't change with requirements to crew partially with under 30's unless the entire boat is crewed by the 50 plus, like me.
     
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    Tell me it ain't true...God help those children!
     
  11. sailsmall
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    Hey Frank, why didn't you just say this is what Mac26 sailing is all about? Where do I sign up?

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    Not sure I'd want to own a Mac26 but, I'd give anything to be one of those cushions.
     
  13. mighetto
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    For many the Mac26x or M is the only boat they choose to own. The utility of a power sailer is hard to better. Other's always need crew. I will be at Roach Harbor on a Sabre Sailboat next week end for example. Of course you do not want to spend time learning to sail TP52 style designs. That will mess you up on uncompromized sailboats:>)

    Blue Water Yachts is having its intermediate sailing class tonight and I thought I would attend to chat informally at breaks about PHRF-NW race experience. The dealers old multihull Double Shot has established a race course tradition. The boat (renamed Nepenthe) plays the hound. Those of us in single hulled Macgregors sail in cruising class and get a 30 minute head start owing to that. Nepenthe then trys to catch the "foxes" before the first mark. Prior to overlap they count .. one, two three and then put fists in air and yell MACGREGOR!. How cool is that. Nepenthe means a drug that makes you dream. Is this a great sport or what?

    In any case, its more friendly on the PHRF courses. The explained roll of the Macgregors (to let the BS win) is falling away.

    According to a wise SSSS fleet captain, (its Kelly OK) BS stands for big ship as well as Bravo Sierra. The BS owners still believe that larger means faster but their crews can't help but notice smaller vessels pass from time to time and the old courtesy - meant to sooth the egos of the BS owners - of not listing DNS boats (boats that drop out and do not notify the committee boat on purpose because they have been bettered by a smaller boat) is not being extended. So there is now a public humiliation penalty for pouting after being passed.

    Frank L. Mighetto
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    Frank, I'm not a very smart guy and can't see the connection between your comments above and the previous discussion. No surprise there, I'll just take your word for it that they are relevant. Going to a sailing class to learn about PHRF racing seems like a good idea since I remember you had some difficulty with the starting sequence some time back.

    Any comments on the Scuttlebutt story this morning? It sounds like RORC is conceding the Grand Prix arena to the TP52 and other box rule classes. How can that be since the TP52 is so flawed? They are not even US east coasters. You need to get on the stick and let them know what a mistake that would be.
     

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    mighetto:


    Why do you argue so fervently against these TP52s? I know nothing whatsoever about the politics involved (perhaps because it's so tedious?), but I must say that you continue on as though your life depended on the banishment of TP52s and all other fixed keel sailboats. I'm just as smitten with movable ballast as the next guy, but it's not like we're talking about global warming or defense spending or nuclear holocaust. This is YACHT RACING - it is totally frivolous, for fun, recreational, entertaining, sporting. Why aren't you up in arms about the changing field proportions of baseball diamonds, or tennis racket dimensions, or shot-put ball irregularities? IT'S A GAME. FOR FUN. Go buy yourself all the movable ballast boats you want and let Farr et al figure out the answers on their own. No one is forcing you to buy a TP52.

    *name withheld for personal safety*:)
     
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