KLIS trimaran: owners wanted

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by zombat, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. zombat
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    I see. Thank you!
    I sanded out old paints and varnish (or epoxy) from the portlight areas. Some rooten plywood only near the screw holes, other plywood is in good condition.
    We have debated with friend on a future plans: to sand out all paints from the cabin (sand to plywood and then cover with penetration epoxy) or fix weak areas only.
    So, your advice is velcome.

     

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  2. vinboot
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    I should only treat the affected areas, the boat was made with epoxy covering and 2 components polyurethane paint and varnish. I don't know what happened with the boat in the last 30 + years.... IMG_2021.JPG
     
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  3. redreuben
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    You might want to consider a plan to systematically go around all the fittings for rot around the screw holes.
    Drill each screw hole oversize, fill with good strength epoxy filler and re drill hole correct size. Future proof.
     
  4. vinboot
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    Very good proposition!
    I like to add a tip, in such cases I put some temporary tape behind the hole before filling it and also tape on top of the filler flush with the surface, the filler won't sag and I had much less sanding to do.
     
  5. redreuben
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    You can do similar with oversized washers, applies a bit of squeeze pressure too.
     
  6. zombat
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    Hi, Vinboot
    Equipped boat is about 1150 kilo.
    Do you remember approximate weight of the float?

     
  7. vinboot
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    vinboot Junior Member

    Hi Zombat,

    The boat was never weighed. Bernard Rhodes indicated a weight of 544kg. I tried to build it light and that's why I estimated the weight of 600 kgs, maybe a bit optimistic. I only weighed the mainhull when it was turned after building and I think it was 150 kg, but I am not sure. I know that it was afloat and empty, there was always a float in the air. I also don't know what has been added in all those years.
     

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  8. zombat
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    :)Vinboot,
    I want to clarify some details for my Klis repairing.
    I float deck has some rotten places. Actually, old plywood is breaken (right after the junction with the float frame) bacause of bad isolation of water and walking loads. I'm not sure how the float's deck plywood was connected with wooden float frame. Strong epoxy connection? I found sealant between them.
     
  9. vinboot
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    Hi Zombat,
    All the gluiing was done with epoxy & filler and nailed with silicone bronze barbed boatnails. These pictures (from old polaroids) give you an idea how it was build.
    The deck glued on first, then the beams (I can't recall if fasteners where used in the beam/gunwhale joint) the deck/beam joint close with epoxy&filler fillet. Hope you have enough info.

    IMG_2011.JPG IMG_2011.JPG IMG_2010.JPG IMG_2011.JPG IMG_2013.JPG

    Cheers,
    Vincent
     
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  10. zombat
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    Thank you, Vincent!
    Now it is clear.


     
  11. mhasting2004
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    Hi guys and gals.

    Only just got introduced to the Klis design and feats.. wow! Are there any in OZ? I own a TT720 and started a group back in 2016 to share like minded sailors of small boats. I see many parallels to our TrailerTris and would extend the invite to you guys to share your ideas on small boat cruising etc if you want. Us woodies need to keep them all alive :) ands out sailing.

    Likewise if there is a similar group forum for this design I'd love to link it on our group.

    Cheers

    https://fct.groups.io/g/TrailerTris

    PS much respect Bernard! Really enjoyed your zoom meeting that I just saw and was so cool to see pics of places my mum also knew like the grave of RLS.
     
  12. gonzo
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    Do you know if there are plans available?
     

  13. jamez
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    I spoke to Bernard about plans in about 2005 and spent a pleasant couple of hours looking over his Kliss 2 He had at the time and talking boats. He said he had some aspects he wanted to update before selling plans. I don't know if he did and ended up choosing a different design some years later. I think he still lives on Waiheke Island near Auckland and seems active in a local sailing group. He may be contactable through their website. news – Waiheke Working Sail https://www.waihekeworkingsail.org/category/news/
    Pic of his later biplane rigged cat which he sailed NZ to Japan and back.
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