Is there a name for these supports?

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  1. BrettinVA
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    Hello everyone, I was trying to describe how I mount interior boat components to the inside of the hull to someone and it dawned on me that I have no idea what the small wedges I glass to the hull for support & alignment are called. Is there an actual term for them? Photos attached.
     

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    They could be called a number of things, from tabbing to cleats. I use the term cleat as sort of a laminate version of a nailer.
     
  3. hoytedow
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    I made some for my boat and I call them brackets because they are supports for the new seating arrangement.
     

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    That makes sense. I know they aren't necessary but I feel they keep things aligned and provide a small amount of extra support. Half the time I fill so much around them when I tab the panels in they vanish but it's nice knowing that if I bump into things while I'm working they won't get crooked.
     
  5. TANSL
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    If these things serve as support, they could be called brackets, indeed. If these things serve to align elements, they could be called strips, battens, for example. I think the right name will depend, not on its form, but on its function.
     
  6. PAR
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    I think of a bracket attaching something to something else, typically in compression mounted from below though certainly can be in tension, mounted from above or off one side. Thwart supports are a classic use of a cleat, often coupled with a knee or brace for additional support. A batten is a lengthy item usually, not the typically short little hunks of material we call cleats or a bracket. Stringers also tend to be lengthy elements. Stringers and battens tend to follow the changing shape of a boat, while a cleat or bracket is a more localized support of some sort.
     
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    Then, PAR, we both agree, right? We should name it according to its function.
     
  8. hoytedow
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    A bracket is an object fastened to a wall that supports a usually horizontal object against a vertical force. Look in your medicine cabinet and you will see short aluminum or steel brackets of similar function to the tabs that are located at the ends of the glass shelves on older models. They can also be quite small like the ones that have pins going into holes along the sides of shelf units and kitchen cabinets.
     
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    ... then, a bracket can never be in a horizontal position by connecting, for example, two horizontal reinforcements ?. Curious, really.
     
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    I don't think things need to be named by their function, so much as a term that most can understand. Nautical terminology can be daunting, though the term cleat, as well as many others, are fairly common and easily understood. In this instance, a perimeter cleat or support will do.
     
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    Well, it's an opinion, as respectable as any other but, in my opinion, totally wrong. Precisely the languages have many nuances to give different name to things that, being very similar or equal, serve for different ends.
     
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    Cleat is the common name for that.
     
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    My vote is for cleat as well. A cleat is something distinct for you make fast to, the manner of fastening isn't so important. This include cleats on the bottom of shoes, they are there for the ground to make fast to the bottom of the shoe.
     
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    GADGET is my vote for the unknown.
     

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    I shall call them brackets on my boat and call them there thingiess fastened onto a boat, to which you tie a rope, cleats or eyes.
     
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