Historical multihulls

They are not oldschool.
They not only expose the crew to best position, they also bring seats .
Sitting for hours on deck --like on a beachcat-- is a worse option.
Other designs featured small cockpits in the hulls to avoid this--at the cost of interior volume ( berths).
Those racks are a good compromise.
Nearly all successful micro multihulls had more or less sheltered cockpits. Either
in the hulls , or In-Deck-Moulded-Seats aft the cabins ( mostly together with a hard bridgedeck and a wind and spray deflecting voluminous mastbeam ).
Good solutions ; coming from practice.

Race dominating Firebird
http://www.multihull.nl/multihulls/used-multihulls/Firebird Alg/firebird_26_micro.brochure.htm

" seaworthy" and very fast cruisable Spyder ( i pushed her in cruising trim to 24knots) In my opinion the best micro ever -- together with the Shuttleworth 8m, also named Arrow/Sagitta , only a handful have been built. A very seaworthy and fast boat , we always lost against her.
http://hem.bredband.net/b262106/Boat/tech.html
http://www.shuttleworthdesign.com/gallery.php?boat=8marrow


Reasonable production boats ; cruiser; Aventura 23 , Edelcat 26 ( no micro--too long) and Club Strider ( note the tent, double berth, socializing area)Fast enough for newbies , so still desired boats. Durable and pretty cheap boats.
http://www.multihull.de/bilder/micros/aventura23.jpg
http://annonces.voileabordable.com/...esults_format=long&db_id=1611&query=retrieval
http://users.skynet.be/edelvoiliers/fichecat26.htm
http://www.boat24.com/uk/Sail Boats/Werftbau/Werftbau Strider Club Sport/detail/97024/
Strider Club, i think only 16sqm SA . A very versatile boat, see here:
http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/index.php/articles/9-cruising-articles/19-a-day-sail-to-russia
http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/index.php/boat-tests/71-shadowstrider-club-pbo

Trimarans
First dragonfly, the 770. According to the first micro-rule 25' . Demountable alloy beams, daggerboard, pretty small interior volume -enough.
Light, easy and fast , safe boat.
http://www.inautia.de/boot-79428040060669485548705065704553.html
Brian Eiland imported this boat, modified it and built it under licence. Firebird. Ask him. I think it is still in production , i forgot it's actual name.
http://www.runningtideyachts.com/trimaran/
Dragonfly 800 , demountable alloy beams, more volume ( doubleberth in forepeak with limited height ) , Quorning's first centerboarder ( a solution that all Dragonflies feature for good rasons till now-- they are mainly bought by " unexperienced" cruisers, multihull beginners. The clients get what they deserve . They get what they are able to handle . )
http://www.eolina.de/k/trimarane/dragonfly
Dragonfly 800 Swing Wing; same boat w. retractable GRP beams. No pic.

Freely 800, the mostest ? micro-trimaran ; standing headroom.
http://www.nauticaltrek.com/8769-freely-800europe

Speed 770, bad copy of the Kelsall typhoon, floats have too little freeboard , very tiny interior.
http://cachemenut.free.fr/

Kelsall Typhoon; only mainhull, floats and rigg of tornado. Sometimes bigger jib, sometimmes cutter rigged. Each boat is individual. Light and fast, but perky , wet. Pre - micro , 1982 ?
http://www.nauticaltrek.com/12284-trimaran-kelsall-a-vendre
Kelsall Hurricane, same as Typhoon but shorter with Hobie 16 floats and rigg. No pic, very rare.

Pure sang ( day)racer ; Mycat ( named "fastest production boat of the world" ; 1985 --25knots +) and Strider Turbo (more SA and daggerboards, no cockpit)
http://www.nauticaltrek.com/images/21/20947.jpg
Biggest beachcat, note custom-made seat.
http://www.multihull.nl/multihulls/used-multihulls/71130.Mycat/MyCat.71130.fotos.htm
http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/ASSETS/hadfieldstrider2.jpg

Again, what is your programm?





A small view into the gone world of micro- multihulls.



But,


!!!!!!!!!!!!Why don' t you open a new thread when you're looking for a multi of ( in ?) that size ?!!!!!!!!!!!


pogo

 

Thanks for the links. Very interesting to read and look at pictures of these old boats. Maybe I should start my own thread. But I'm afraid I'll eventually loose my "appetite" from all the posts, if you know what I mean.

I could actually have been the owner of a ~8m cruising cat, sold very cheap this summer (full of mold) but the seller sold it to someone who could buy it the same day. It was a Jürgen Sass design called Maram. I couldn't find a pic of the same boat on the internet, and sadly I didn't save the pic from the ad.

The spreadsheet I mentioned in another post?
I think it's too rough to "release". I initially made it to investigate the L/D of daggerboards in different conditions. Then it grew to become a simple VPP. Very rough. But it seems like the results are not bad, when comparing with real numbers of some racing catamarans. I can play with sail area, L/D of sail, daggerboard area, L/D-curve of daggerboards, angle of daggerboards, hull resistance. And some more numbers.
Then I started converting it to Python with the intent to make a GUI and file handling. But I've not made it very far. If I ever finish it, I'll start a thread about it here.

 

Now historical

Maram ~8m ?

The Maram is a light, fast spacious and still competitive 36' cruiser/racer with standing headrom in the hulls and 1.6m in the bridgedeck salon.
About a dozen boats came betweenn 1978 and 198? out of female moulds , owned by a a consortium.
According Sass she is a fast 36 footer with the space of real ( heavy) 30' Cruiser of british style ( e.g. Aristocat, Prout Quest31, Heavenly Twins)
The boat features a genius Dagger-centerboard.

https://sites.google.com/a/hucke-me...artseite/katamaran-maram-ii/Schwertkasten.jpg

http://multihulls.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cropped-cropped-Odrup.jpg

http://www.boat24.com/se/Segelbatar/Werftbau/Werftbau Maram 36/detail/208045/

http://www.eolina.de/multihull-segeln/katamaran-maram-heinz-jurgen-sass.html


The ~ 8m Sass design you are talking about could be a lengthened Dacapo 21

http://www.sailguide.com/bilder/dacapo_21b1.jpg

Or are you talking about Sass' 30' bamboo-bomber of 1969 , the Distans 90 ?
http://www.maringuiden.se/batguiden/;batID=3248&battypID=40

pogo

 

Thanks!

I was mixing things up. There were two ads. First a cheap Maram which needed work. Then the boat I mentioned, with mold growth. That ad only said '26 foot Sass, mold in hulls'. Not much info in the ad. Maybe a lengthened DaCapo as you suggest. It was the closest I could find on the internet. But this boat had round windows, and not as boxy shapes as the DaCapo cabin. Don't think it was Distans 90, that one doesn't look familiar.

 

Playstation soon after re-launching after a battery fire had damaged the interior and Cooksons had to rebuild/repair, this around the millennium period.

 

Orange II leaving New York bound for Newport. After some work in Newport they returned to Ambrose Light and set off to England, breaking the Trans Atlantic record.

 

Not much info on David Barkers Sundancer on here. Is she still sailing in NZ?

 

Very much so.

 

Sundancer

Gary,

I think you're confused with Sundreamer and Sundancer. I spoke to Leroi Ford ex-owner of the mighty Sundancer a few weeks ago and learnt that after selling the boat the new owner has turned it into a block of flats. He's totally gutted. Obviously destroyed its looks and performance.

Tony

 

Apologies. Yes, lightweight Sundancer is history. But that is a neat shot of the dreamer? A heavy dancer would be a dog; those fine hulls would quickly increase wetted surface area and drag.

 

I love both those cats but while there has been plenty on the dreamer,very little on Sundancer. Such a shame if she has been destroyed like that. I don't know whether to thank you or not Tony for that bit of disturbing news. Anyone know how she has held up structurally over the last 40 odd years? No high tech materials there like today. She just came to mind yesterday when I was looking through an early 1970s britich multihull magazine and here was a story about her and how modern she looked among all the ugly old Catalacs, Bobcats etc of the day, she would easily pass for a 1980s vintage boat.

 

I saw Ppalu last week in Marsh Harbour, Bahamas. Looking good despite its sinking last year.

When built (1977?) it was the biggest fastest multihull in the world.

I believe it is now for sale

Richard Woods

 

Ive always loved the look of those big Spronk cats, gorgeous boats.

 

Since the world famous in New Zealand? Flash Harry destroyed itself on its shallow mooring a few years ago and is no more, I salvaged the mast (which astonishingly survived the turnover) and Jacques took it (after some convincing talk from me) to up-performance his much altered Farrier Shifty. He finally has got rid of the archaic fixed original rig. That is after I changed the ex-Flash Harry wing mast above-hounds curved luff to straight and added a little distance to make 9.3 metres total mast height ... and he slathered the sides with carbon to ease his fears and paranoia. So last week he got a new Doyle main for the taller new/old mast and checked it out. A new flat jib and a reacher will also be arriving soon. Test sail will be interesting?

 

Cool stuff, Might be the fastest early trailer tri ever