Advanced Manufacturing of Flying Boats

Discussion in 'Projects & Proposals' started by AmnonMikeCohen, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Mr Efficiency
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    Pretty simple I think, TANSL, he is looking for financial backers.
     
  2. PAR
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    He's been looking for financial backers for many years, likely decades if you're to believe his comments about how long he's been trying to promote his "invention". If it takes decades to get investors to come aboard, then only one of two possible situations exist - the first is the "invention" isn't palatable on one or more levels and second, the "promoter" has a flawed approuch to finding and informing potential investors. There are plenty of crazy people with lots of money to invest in nutty ideas, which makes me wonder why he's in the situation he's in. If he's been unable, over all these years to garner investment capital, well I've said it enough in the thread to be understood I think.
     
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    He doesn't give up easily, apparently. But clearly the sales pitch needs work.
     
  4. TANSL
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    PAR and Mr Efficiency, I agree. It is shown, we can say devastating things without insulting anyone. We only need a minimum of education.
     
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    I watched video of the hull planning and looked impressive also good to see for change some one boat design with an idea especially invention.
     
  6. Mr Efficiency
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    I hope there is better evidence than those fuzzy videos. They can't be considered conclusive of anything.
     
  7. gonzo
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    The mysterious patent application is just as fuzzy. The PTO publishes them and they are online now. All he has to do is post the application number. However, considering the time that has passed, either the PTO didn't considered it had merit, or he let it lapse and has no protection.
     
  8. PAR
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    I figures Myark thinks the porpoising boat video is "impressive". The high quality image, the boat that pops on and off plane every few seconds, truly are impressive aren't they . . .
     
  9. myark
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    I was referring to the advanced second model film naturally which clearly shows excellent planning and a possibility the idea is good.

    Can I see one of your patent inventions you mention to compare would be interesting to see ?
     
  10. Mr Efficiency
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    The second video doesn't establish much at all. Without knowing, e.g., boat speed Vs engine rpm for both runs, it means little that it appeared to rise out of the water more. At the expense of what drag we can't say.
     
  11. myark
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    Looking at the video reminds me of Blade Runner hydrofoil cats in NZ that the hull sits on top of water, I have designed similar for my own design hydrofoil cats I will eventually manufacture in china.
     
  12. tom kane
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    If anyone has been granted a Patent they should be able to simply explain where the " "New" and "Novel " aspects of their Invention are and how their Invention is different to existing products.
    They would have to explain this to their Patent Attorney and the Patent Office along with Claims made on the "Novel aspects.

    It takes a lot of time and research to find this information and any other person not familiar with the new idea making random dismissal comments with out knowing fully about the invention is not being reasonable and certainly not helpful.

    You have to be very persistent to get through to *******.... if you are even aloud to try.
    Keep going AmnonMikeCohen.
     
  13. myark
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    I agree with Tom Keep going AmnonMikeCohen

    You are correct as the patent is not published when starting patent pending for 12months with an extension of a further 6 months before been published which you need to pay to kick thar of or you can drop the patent pending and refile any time as long as you do not disclose publicly.
    It’s a good move on your behalf as it is prove are the actual inventor if someone tries to copy your idea and place a patent which this way you can prove they copied and are not the inventers also allows you to drop the patent and refile further designs to that patent.

    My inventions are always been further redeveloped so dropping a patent is completely normal especially running out of time and money as a patent pending cost just $75 USD online which is very easy and quick to do and then if happy with market and need more time the patent pending can be swapped to a PCT patent which gives 30 months’ time from the beginning of patent pending filing date that covers over 90 country’s one can decide to file final patent which a PCT actually have an inspection and publication which is good when comes to final patent inspection say the USA or China is much easier to pass the patent office examiners.
     
  14. PAR
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    After a few decades of his attempts to patent and market, I'd say he's had ample opportunity to make a reasonable and understandable presentation. His attempts here have been considerably short of this, which might explain quite a bit.
     

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    Encouraging words are nice, but cash is better. Have the cheque book handy ! :D
     
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