Piver Mariner

I just remembered another reason I thought it was a mariner... mast placement on top of cabin vs foredeck. It's as if the builder took features from each. I'll actually see the "vessel" in may. lots of time to ponder on whether it's worth it or not.

 

My Nugget had the mast sit on the cabin. Piver originally drew than cabins behind the mast but most of the boats had the mast on the cabin so you can't use this to discriminate - you don't have to - it is a Nugget - I would know that shape anywhere.

Don't worry about calling it the wrong type. I used to call my Nugget a Hedley Nicol Clipper for about a year until someone got out some design books and showed me what the difference in designs was. The bloke I bought it from didn't know and I was only 16.

cheers

Phil

 

Quite a difference there Phil .... The main thing here is condition, if it is basically sound it is a good inexpensive way to get on the water. If it isn't your time would be better spent elsewhere. Trying to make a Piver something it isn't won't pay off but kept light and not dragging a prop they can move well with decent sails.

 

I am a bit embarrassed to admit I didn't know but all I knew was I wanted a tri. I had seen Bullfrog/Verbatim during its build and wanted a trimaran. There was one for sale and my 420 was sold and I bought it. The guy told me it was Clipper and I believed him for a while till I got more into tris.

Now the difference is stark.

cheers

Phil

 

been busy as hell with work... that's a good thing right?

not what I had in mind for widening the stern, that looks like a mess. The short version is thinking more in terms of surgically removing the rear bulkheads an actually making new ones to create more space onboard and therefore more boyancy in the stern.

Then again, simply restoring it and giving it a cuddy/tent cabin might be a better answer.

if you guys were to guess, what do you think this boat might weigh as it sits (assuming empty cabin, dry) 1500lbs?

 

This little PIVER23 (7m) is about 1300kg or 2865lbs estimated by the owner without rigging built from reinforced polyester resin. Very heavy are the beams made from nirosta steel. And the boat was no fun to sail - as far as I remember.
I do not know if it is possible for you to keep your trimaran light - 1500lbs. Do you have some more pics??

This one might be lighter:

 

You can take it to a weigh station on the trailer and then go back and weigh the trailer. Either a truck scale or a scrap metal or recycling station.

 

the tri is still 3 hours away from me. At this point I'm just contemplating it as a project still. I know how to weigh it once its here. The reason I ask is that its sitting on a flatbed trailer and needs an actual boat trailer. wondering if it can sit on a single axle. from what I can tell from the pics, I dont think theres any steel in it, I'm pretty sure its just glass over ply with either solid or hollow wood beams.

By the way, another good place to use a scale is the landfill.