Historical multihulls

Sundreamer back racing after a 5 year sabbatical

 

The article on Tisserand is also worth a look:

 

Got to be a way to trailer the suckers or store on beach?

 

Tisserand

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semelis, thank you for posting that link!

 

CT249 said.:- I've been a member of mono, multihull and windsurfer organisations that turned down donations. It's a pity to see hate and insults being thrown at other people for doing the same thing. If we demand that people respect our tastes and craft, surely it's only reasonable to do the same thing in return?

For once I agree with Chris.

 

Actually the Naval Academy used to get a lot of donated boats (often for tax purposes), in fact more than they could hope to utilize themseves. So many were sold off for the money that could then be put into their sailing program(s).

 

You've got that all correct. Sorry I didn't see your posting before I submitted my recent one

 

FFS. We're talking about Dick Newick's and Phil Weld's famous Moxie, winner and record holder (then) of the OSTAR ... not you average unwanted merde-box donation. Did I say FFS?

 

Sorry, but at that time of multihull development/history, ANY multihull was not even considered relevant. I lived and worked just across the creek from the NA at the time, and was surprised as well.

It just didn't fit in with their program at the time. And it was a 'wooden vessel' on top of that.

They took it out sailing a couple of times if i remember correctly, but that's about it. It just was not one of their 'proper training vessels'.

 

Thanks Brian, that is exactly my point ... which I call ignorance crossed with stupidity. Some here can blather on concocting wet excuses ... but end of day, being presented with a famous and (maybe too) modern design - but actually a work of art ... pearls before swine? I think so.

 

So they were presented with a work of art, and you reckon they should have handed it over to a bunch of trainees who could have bashed and flapped it around an unsuitable location and maintained by people without multi experience?

Instead, the boat is being actively sailed by someone who loves it. That's a bad thing in your eyes? You actually WANT to stop the boat from being used by multihull lovers? How very odd.

As an analogy, imagine if the Army Armoured School was given one of Michael Schumacher's F1 cars as a tax dodge. Would you rather they sell it to a collector, or use it to train tank drivers?

As already mentioned, I've been in organisations that have been donated stuff. We've SAVED the good stuff, not sent it to the training school to get the crap knocked out of it.

Ah well, it's just more evidence that haters love to hate, and that some people will go out of their way in order to feel persecuted.

 

Thanks for confirming that there were good practical reasons for them to pass Moxie to someone who loves her.

However, where is the evidence that 'no multi was considered relevant' at the time? Moxie's win was very widely covered and praised in the international sailing press. Around the same time, many people were making (incorrect) announcements that we were at the start of an era when multis would basically take over sailing. Magazines around here, at least, were very happy to cover multis, and pics and information on historical multis could be found in magazines. The future commodore of the CYCA was chartering Australia's fastest multi a few years later. Beach cats were booming.

There wasn't all that much interest in historical monos at the time, either - boats like the J Class were mostly rotting in mudbanks or motoring around the Med. Historic windsurfers were getting sold for very little with no concern about preservation. There was no real interest in historic dinghies.

In that context, there's nothing anti-multi about passing on Moxie.

Oh, and it looks as like the NA also sold on the TP 52 Samba Pa Ti (donated by the very establishment Kilroys of Kialoa fame) and many other "establishment" monos. Not only that, they have been doing it for decades, selling on boats like the 1930s classic "Highland Light" many years ago.

Since the NA sells on historic "establishment" monos as well as multis, there seems to be absolutely no evidence of anti-multi bigotry.

 

Entirely miss my point - and you seem to think that the naval recruits are complete incompetents (which is not what I was implying) - so I'll spell it out slowly: Navy HIERACHY had the chance to introduce a modern boat to recruits, (and I'm sure Phil Weld would have known about recruit sailing abilities - otherwise he wouldn't have made the offer) - but the hierachy turned him down.
My point: it was anti-multihull prejudice of the power structure that caused the students to miss the chance. It could have been a positive thing. Because there would have been talent amongst the students; there always is.
And by the way, nothing to do with haters and other silly BS.

 

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Sorry, I didn't realise that you were so closely associated with the USNA that you'd know for a fact that there was "anti-multihull prejudice of the power structure".

Using terms like "prejudice", "ignorance crossed with stupidity" and "pearls before swine" to refer to people and their attitudes does seem to resonate of hate, or at the very least disdain and contempt.

And yes, there are some very talented sailors at USNA, but not all of them are like that.

 

Keep wearing those rose tinted glasses CT.