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  1. masalai
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    http://www.gata.org/node/12405 "Fed shorting gold to support dollar, former Assistant Treasury Secretary Roberts says"

    http://www.gata.org/node/12406 "In Daily Reckoning interview, Sprott notes central banks' deceptive accounting of gold"
    http://www.gata.org/node/12407 "Australia and China plan to trade directly in their own currencies"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRi68lb2nSQ&feature=em-uploademail The Freedomain Radio Sunday Philosophy Call in Show, March 31st, 2013
    0:30 -- Common Law Clarification
    3:20 -- Cyprus Banks, Electronic Transfers and the Keystone Cops
    6:35 -- Bonus Podcast and Documentary Update
    9:40 -- Resistance to Therapy / Training for Adulthood
    48:45 -- Teaching UPB to Children
    1:10:00 - Showing Your Light to the World
    1:46:40 -- Personal Competing Currencies?


    Not sure how long I will persist, first caller seems unsure - brain dead - and a waste of space... The opening started well with an interesting start by Stefan Molyneux on Cyprus events and repercussions... WOW I am listening whilst slowly typing this. - - And does that first caller need a "talking therapy" and 'get a life' to get his act together...
     
  2. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    219440
    Early morning reading is somewhat depressing
    Central banks are terrified, likely of derivatives, Sinclair tells KWN http://www.gata.org/node/12409 - - and -
    Embry sees stock market rolling over on declining volume http://www.gata.org/node/12408

    also Bix Weir: CYPRUS & the Bitcoin Phenomenon http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/1141.cfm

    Australia based publishers have not posted yet - - and the rest I received is marketing and promotional rubbish with a spattering of whores in USA who think they are 4 miles away from me or Nigerian scam / spam using semi-naked USA college students images stolen from 'facebook'...

    TV and other sources are trying to beat up domestic drama, Political lies, and other meaningless BS. - Oh and I suppose half the world is still living the "Easter" dream or recovering from playing or being the recipient of April Fools Day jokes... Remember, a victim of a "joke" posted after noon has the right of reciprocation at any time to the late 'jokester' - happy 'revenge'...
     
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  4. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Mmmmmmm Thanks,
    I follow that stuff - somehow I missed this one - Cheers. - - - Ahhhh I HAVE read it, but felt it would be considered to "heavy" for most to read and also like some lengthy selling package to numb most minds into signing and paying for something that returns little...

    Borrowing for day-to-day expenditure is not sustainable. - - Indeed. - - Ireland begat Greece, which begat Portugal, which morphed into Spain then Italy; but all these
    problems have been 'solved' by delaying the game through methods that may not have been against the rules but were certainly not in the spirit of the game. This 'delay of game' has come to be widely known by another term over the past several years: 'kicking the can down the road'. But either way, the point is the same: you can't just hope to buy enough time for the game to end and for things to get better. There are penalties for doing that. On the football field it's five yards; in the real world the penalties are significantly
    steeper.


    In reading I think I am detecting the plot that are being foisted on the markets / "innocent" banks that have good cash balances ripe for plucking by the unscrupulous BANKSTERS seeking ways and means to sell the unsuspecting "AAA" rated Greek Bonds and other derivatives to earn massive bonuses for selling such 'krap' The victim banks are then closed and the assets confiscated by the banksters leaving the Citizens and the victim country as a basket case suffering under an unbearable level of debt...

    I remember Gerald Celente oft quoting words to the effect "When the poor find they have lost everything by the banksters confiscating everything and they now have nothing - THEY LOOSE IT". . . . I expect retribution to be merciless and well deserved... The banksters are to be commended on a very simple plan that gives them 2 bites of the cherry and all perfectly "legal" and PERFECTLY IMMORAL, UNETHICAL and UNFAIR... A very effective scam...

    I am reminded of a Q$A http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/ Monday, 1 April 2013 Faith & Love today on religious matters where it was acknowledged the churches and other social groups that seemed to attract paedophiles and similar abusers to corrupt their ranks and the "LEADERS" not knowing or recognising what must be done to stop that problem - so in a similar vein I find bureaucrats and politicians do not know what to do or how to do things to stop the BANKSTERS pilfering the resources, (careful savings over their entire lifetime), of the hard earned savings of the frugal working class... Will you be next for your savings are not as safe as you may imagine... The laws say something to the effect that your "deposits" are an UNSECURED LOAN and likely have NO PROTECTION or right for you to make any real claim for the return of your money...

    I am not a trained legal person but I DO KNOW IMMORAL and UNETHICAL acts when I see such activity... READ THE REST OF THE FILE - - - I IMPLORE EVERYONE...

    That is my take - but do please read for yourself

    Thanks for the link Moggie....
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  5. Moggy
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    If the rumor mill is to be believed the BRICs are going to attempt to stuff the western banking system full of UST's as collateral underpinning loans that will essentially finance the new payment system they have been working on. A move designed to bypass and undermine the USD as reserve. More than a little on the diabolical side if they get away with it! As has been suggested in the past they (the US & co) will supply the rope by which they are hung. Watch this space, the second half of this year looks like it is ripe with potential to get VERY interesting. Got your life boat handy.... AGAIN? You know, just in case.
     
  6. michael pierzga
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    Yup.


    Elected officials feeding the bankers.

    Keep interest rates super low to discourage personal saving and encourage credit consumption , debt. Bankers love consumer debt.

    If youre still foolish enough to save, the bankers may decide not to give you back your savings because they need it or policy makers will inflate away your savings to reduce their liabilities and teach you a lesson.


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  7. masalai
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    Hi Moggie,
    I have similar feelings tightening in my gut... There are too many straws floating around above the laden elephant, and its back - when it breaks will make a bigger mess than any camel could achieve...
    219440 to 219639 =
     
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    When you say "They loose it" I can only assume you mean the hound of havoc.
     
  9. masalai
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    Hi Hoyt,
    Well to me it seemed fairly obvious when I heard it (oft repeated) on several of Gerald Celente outpourings http://www.geraldcelente.com/2013/04 - - as that is the source... I aggregate and post links to what I feel relevant to my boating budgeting and planning... http://www.trendsresearch.com/SubscriberArea/gerald-celente-usawatchdog-com-greg-hunter-april-1-2013 When he gets wound up he is a hoot and tells the truth as he sees it... What he says is well within plausible and probable outcomes, as Gerald and his researchers look outside the box harvest raw data and make their own assessment independently...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/opinion/sunday/sundown-in-america.html?hp&_r=2& from the links provided in the 2nd April 2013 issue of Ed Steer's Gold & Silver Daily http://www.caseyresearch.com/gsd will always give the most recent publication... The 0.1% job growth is even less than population growth so USA "Growth" is actually NEGATIVE as a percentage of the employable population... As per the byline, State-Wrecked: The Corruption of Capitalism in America [Sundown in America] Corruption and general avoidance of the truth, market manipulation and statistical lies systemic and economic collapse is a foregone conclusion...

    USA prime oils are subsidised by about 20% on the real world price (Tapis in Singapore is around US$118 or more, WTI is around US$98), The Federal Reserve is buying USA bonds & other debt at US$85 BILLION A MONTH (QE infinity), Precious metals are priced in paper metal (created to be a price follower derivative which is basically a paper bet), COMEX is manipulated by the Fed Reserve to artificially manipulate the value of the US$, The major stock markets are manipulated using "algo trading" to fool the American people into thinking there is a "recovery" - - Business cannot exist for long when everything is FAKE... Politicians desperately kicking the can of debt (denying the truth so they will not go down in history as "on watch" when the economy collapsed... I sincerely hope that the smaller businesses figure out how to survive, - as it appears that that is all that is left of the powerhouse that once was the proud America that the rest of the world once looked up to... NOT ANY MORE....

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn...hing_Has_Western_Central_Banks_Terrified.html
    Six years ago the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) at that time reported that the amount of derivatives already outstanding exceeded one quadrillion dollars. This number is unimaginable to most human beings. - - But that is the actual number (over one quadrillion dollars). They never should have released that number because it created a bit of panic. Central planners immediately changed the accounting method for derivatives and this appeared to bring the total amount down to under $700 trillion. So through the use of an accounting gimmick the total was reduced, but it hasn’t changed the frightening reality of what the world is facing....
    - - For sooth he cried - to be honest the likely amount is now close to 2 quadrillion... A thousand years of debt enforced slavery and servitude... I fear your children and their children will curse the memory of their forebears for a long long time... As you all should know by now, When the reserve banks start to show signs of panic and fear - - IT IS TOO LATE, Things are OUT OF CONTROL, there are no parachutes left and .................... :p :p
     
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    For the lay folk, the problem being that derivatives offer "financial insurance" over a range of financial events (they are most often a tailored product and are almost always opaque, save the exchange traded stuff like futures = nobody knows the full extent of the potential problems) and while they are valid concept if you are buying insurance from outside your local "system" underwritten by an entity that can preform and will be unaffected by the insured event it becomes a different story when the insurance is written by interrelated and under capitalized entities that are ALL within the same system and will all be affected by any systemic event. In fact the chain of obligation created by these derivatives will ensure that any meaningful event has a MUCH greater chance of becoming a systemic event. Some will argue that the quadrillion is a notional number and means as much as the total contract value of say something like total car insurance written. It is meaningless unless you expect all cars to wreck at the same time. The problem being that cars are not connected like financial entities and contagion is a very real thing in the financial world, thus in a systemic event the potential for the TOTAL notional value of these things to become real is LARGE. Given the size related to our global economy it would be one hell of a storm... should it occur. I don't really expect financial Armageddon just yet, but we can expect a few more butt puckering trips and over the top government reactions before this reaches whatever conclusion it is going to reach.

    We have in effect built a healthy and thriving life insurance market with all counter parties resident on the Titanic. I wish your kin the best of luck in seeking contract performance should we hit an iceberg. What is more the existence of the robust insurance market appears to have embolden the captain to steam at full speed on the fastest route available, straight across the ice fields.

    It is more that a little nutty when you take the 30,000 foot view and like all crazy schemes it can be justified at the mico level. Take a step back and you see it for what it is, an unresolvable mess that is growing exponentially! When I first started to get intrigued by this arcane market I was surprised at JPM's $680 billion notional exposure.... now... well now we have eclipsed, errr, well we have eclipsed the planet and some!!!! It is simply stunning.

    Setting the scene for a collapse and for governments to ride to the rescue with a new global currency? Is there method in this madness or is it simply madness? It will be and interesting ten years or so folks :D Don't lose your sense of humor, you are going to need it!

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    Changes in the US over that last ten years or so could be interpreted as being intended for control of potential domestic unrest. Then if you draw that conclusion you are a lunatic fringe conspiracy theorist. I have no idea, let history judge how these new laws etc eventually get used. I would note that if you had pointed out that in all probability Hilter burned the Reichstag for political advantage at the time of the event there is no doubt you would have been held as a "lunatic fringe conspiracy theorist". In fact nothing is clear to this day, excepting what the Nazis did after the event. Sometimes the looney fringe actually have a point that should be considered.

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    Aliens use gold and platinum for their propulsion systems that is why the NWO wants it all, to buy what they won't get.

    Good picture Michael, Jeff has it in for me again because I cannot give you more rep points :D
     

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    In all my travels into the badlands I have never heard that one!

    ABSOLUTELY INSPIRED!

    and so obvious when you think about it ;) :D
     
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    No one has it in for you personally Fanie. If a user repeatedly leaves post feedback that breaks the forum rules, for example calling another member a rude name, insults, or profanity instead of a constructive comment, their use of the system will be revoked. As is said on the box where post feedback is left "Please keep comments as constructive as possible.
    Positive comments on good posts are appreciated. If you disapprove, you must leave a constructive comment on what is wrong with the post that can help the poster to improve. Note: all comments are logged and must follow forum rules." However, I believe you are simply reacting to a popup that you "must spread some reputation around before giving it to XYZ again". This is simply in place to keep any small group of users from giving points back and forth and back and forth which could otherwise get out of hand, and has been in place for many years now as outlined in the FAQ. It can be a pain sometimes when a member gives especially good help and advice on the forum that merits repeated positive feedback, but there's nothing wrong with thanking them on the forum itself too. Sorry for any inconvenience you've encountered and hope this helps.
     
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    LOL

    Lemme translate for you illiterates that cannot read Afrikaans :D
    The sheep are saying to the other one to stop his conspiracy sh4t...
    The second one says I'm telling you that guy and that dog is working together !
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