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  1. troy2000
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    Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll not only have his shoes, you'll have a one-mile head start on him.:D

    I'm sorry, Daniel. I couldn't resist. But all joking aside, you said something that's worth keeping in mind.
     
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    First you want to judge him, then you want to steal his shoes. Oh, my!

    Just beware of foot fungus. :D
     
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    Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadows about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us.
    P. J. O'Rourke, in Parliament of Whores (1991)

    Democracy has nothing to do with freedom. Democracy is a soft variant of communism, and rarely in the history of ideas has it been taken for anything else.
    Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Reflections on State and War (2006).

    Democracy is necessarily despotism, as it establishes an executive power contrary to the general will; all being able to decide against one whose opinion may differ, the will of all is therefore not that of all: which is contradictory and opposite to liberty.
    Immanuel Kant, Perpetual Peace, II, (1795).

    Democracy is not freedom. Democracy, is five wolves and a sheep sitting down to vote on what to have for dinner. Majority rule will only work if you're considering individual rights. You can't have five wolves and one sheep vote on what they want to have for supper.
    In order to ensure future generations of compliant sheep, they are careful to educate the lambs in the way of "political correctness," tutoring them in the totalitarian faiths that "it takes a barnyard to raise a lamb" and "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (Saamgestel)

    "Socialism works very well until you run out of other people's money."
    Margaret Thatcher

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.
    -1887 Alexander Tyler
     
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    Winston Churchill was caught by the Boers during the Boer war and once was almost killed. I have a bunch of stories about that time. Here's the story, it's in Afrikaans but a translator will give you the idea. Noooo, I'm too lazy to translate.

    Bloody English :D

    ABO: Churchill by Dewetsdorp byna dood. Ai - Boere hoekom skiet julle mis.

    HOEVEEL mense weet dat die later beroemde Britse premier sir Winston Churchill einde April 1900 in die "Anglovolgende trefwoord"-vorige trefwoord"Boereoorlog" byna by Dewetsdorp doodgeskiet is?

    Churchill is as oorlogskorrespondent van die Morning Post deur die Boere in Natal gevang en as krygsgevangene in die Staatsmodelskool in Pretoria aangehou. Hy het ontsnap en het uiteindelik sy weg na Bloemfontein gevind waar lord Roberts en die aksie was.
    Hy het ook twee dae, 28 en 29 April 1900, saam met genl. Brabanzon by Dewetsdorp deurgebring, wat vir hom gesê het: ``Come with us, we'll give you a show now first class.''

    Churchill skryf: ``So, in belang van die Morning Post het ek (waarskynlik 29 April) op my perd geklim. Ons was so 40 of 50 verkenners, Angus McNeill en ek.
    ``Dit was van die begin af 'n resies. Ons het vyf leier-Boere gesien. Ons het by 'n draadheining gekom, 100 treë 120 om presies te wees van die kruin van die koppie (by Dewetsdorp), afgeklim en die draad geknip en was op die punt om die waardevolle rotse te beset toe soos ek hulle by Frere gesien het, `grim, hairy and terrible' die koppe en skouers van 'n dosyn Boere verskyn en hoeveel moes nie agter hulle gewees het nie?''

    Churchill skryf daar was 'n lang, onverklaarbare pouse, of miskien glad nie een nie, maar hy onthou baie het gebeur. Die een Boer met 'n lang swart baard en sjokoladekleurige jas en 'n ander een met 'n rooi serp om sy nek het oor hul perde aangelê terwyl twee verkenners ``stupidly'' aan die draad geknip het.

    McNeill het in 'n stewige stem gesê: ``Te laat, terug na die ander koppie. Galop!''
    Die ``swish'' en ``whirr'' van koeël s het die lug gevul.
    ``Ek het my voet in die stiebeuel gesit. Die perd, verskrik deur die skietery, het wild gespring. Ek het geprobeer om in die saal te spring; dit het tot onder die dier se maag gedraai. Hy het weggebreek en soos 'n mal ding weggalop. Die meeste van die verkenners was reeds 200 treë weg. Ek was alleen, sonder perd, die naaste teiken en met die naaste skuiling minstens 'n myl weg.

    `Ek het een vertroosting gehad my pistool. Ek het gedraai en vir die tweede keer in hierdie oorlog te voet van Boereskerpskutters vir my lewe gehardloop.
    `Skielik het ek 'n verkenner gesien. Hy het tot my verbasing dadelik gestop en die volgende oomblik was ek agter hom op die saal. Ek het my arms om hom gesit om aan die maanhare vas te hou. My hand is met bloed deurweek. Die perd is hard getref, maar die dapper dier het homself edelmoedig gedra.''

    Churchill vertel hoe die koeëls om hul koppe gefluit het.
    `Moenie bang wees nie. Dit sal jou nie tref nie,'' het sy redder gesê. Toe Churchill nie antwoord nie, het sy redder gesê: ``My arme perd, o, my arme perd. Die duiwels! Maar hul uur sal aanbreek, O, my arme perd!''

    Churchill het gesê: ``Moenie bekommerd wees nie, jy het my lewe gered.''
    `A, maar dit is my perd waaraan ek dink,'' was die antwoord.
    `Dit was ons hele gesprek,'' skryf Churchill.
    Die redder was troep Roberts.
     
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    A Quote from South Africa -

    Chuck Norris has never been given a hiding because Chuck Norris has never been to Boksburg !

    :eek:
     
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    That's a very strange series of attacks on democracy. They take the most extreme, unprincipled and cynical views and manifestations of it, and pretend those are the norm..

    Sounds like the sort of crap Glenn Beck comes up with. Beck is responsible for a whole generation of gullible listeners believing that fascism and socialism are the same thing. It also reminds me of a preacher I once heard on the radio, who explained that doing what you want is slavery to Satan, and the only 'true' freedom is abject obedience to the will of God -- with the preacher as His stand-in, of course.....
     
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    Translated: ABO: Churchill Dewetsdorp almost died

    THE war correspondent Winston Churchill of Lourenco Marques in Durban after he escaped from Farmers Captivity.
    Photograph: The Green Wall Collection.
    Nols Nieman





    ABO
    HOW MANY people know that the later famous British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill at the end of April 1900 in the "South "- "War" almost at Dewetsdorp shot?
    It is one of the interesting pieces that Miss. Joan Abrahams of of Bloemfontein down.
    Churchill as a war correspondent for the Morning Post Farmers caught in Natal and as a prisoner of war held in the State Model School in Pretoria. He escaped and eventually found its way to Bloemfontein Lord Roberts and the action was.
    he made ​​two days, 28 and 29 April 1900, with Gen. Brabanzon spent at Dewetsdorp, who told him: `` Come with us, we'll give you a show now first class.''
    Churchill writes: `` So, in the interest of the Morning Post, I (probably April 29) got on my horse. We were about 40 or 50 scouts, Angus McNeill and me.
    `` It was from the beginning a race. Our saw five leading farmers. We joined a wire fence came 100 yards 120 to be precise from the crest of the hill (at Dewetsdorp), went down the wire cut and was on the point of the valuable rocks occupy when as I them at Frere seen `grim, hairy and terrible 'heads and shoulders appeared a dozen farmers and many had not been behind them?''
    Churchill writes there was a long, unexplained break, or maybe no one but he remembers much happened. A farmer with a long black beard and chocolate-colored coat and another one with a red scarf around his neck applied across their horses while two scouts `` stupidly'' to cut the wire.
    McNeill a firm voice said: `` Too late, back to the other cup. Gallop!''
    '' swish'' and `` whirr'' of bullet s filled the air.
    '' I have put my foot in the stirrup. The horse, startled by the shooting, jumped wildly. I tried to jump in the saddle; turned to the animal's stomach. He broke away and like a crazy thing weggalop. Most of the scouts were already 200 yards away. I was alone, without a horse, the nearest target and with the nearest shelter least a mile away.
    `` I had one consolation pistol. I turned and foot for the second time in this war of Boereskerpskutters ran for my life.
    `` Suddenly I saw a scout. He stopped immediately to my surprise and the next moment I was behind him on the saddle. I put my arms around him to hold the mane. My hands are soaked with blood. The horse was hit hard, but the brave animal wore himself generosity.''
    Churchill told how the bullets whiz around their heads.
    `` Do not be afraid. It will not hit you,'' said his rescuer. Churchill not answer, his rescuer said: `` My poor horse, oh, my poor horse. The devils! But their hour will come, Oh, my poor horse!''
    Churchill said: `` Do not worry, you saved my life.''
    `` A, but this is my horse that I think,'' was the reply.
    `` That was our whole conversation,'' writes Churchill.
    rescuer was crap Roberts.
    ABO

    http://152.111.11.6/argief/berigte/volksblad/2000/04/29/7/5.html
     
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    Google translate. Sorry for the word butchery.
     
  9. Fanie
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    Actually that is exactly what democracy is.

    Lets say you and I and a few other blokes are together and we decide to take your boat for ourselves. All we have to do is decide democratically that we remove your right of property and the boat is our's.

    And if you complain about it we will take your (right to) life the same democratic way ;)

    America (as is South Africa) is not a democratic country, it is a constitutional country. While a political party can be voted in democratically, that is where "democracy" must end. Politicians lie to you and brainwash you to think the way they want you to think.

    When the constitution is honored (by the authorities), it is the most equal, fairest and harmony guaranteeing country you will get. Change it to a democracy and you will find someone' democratically voted boot on your head pretty soon.
     
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    You need to learn the difference between democracy and mob rule. They aren't the same thing, any more than freedom is the same thing as anarchy.

    The US is a representative democracy, and a constitutional republic. Claims that those four words are somehow all mutually exclusive are an attack on the very foundations of not just America's form of government, but its fundamental values.

    I think you need a good dictionary, and some remedial civics classes. And maybe an 'off' button on your TV, so you can get Glenn Beck off it.:rolleyes:
     
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    Democracy is mob rule. We have the same democrats here, they are not interested in a person's rights, all they are interested is disarmament so that people cannot defend themselves against this mob, and they offer "services" in exchange for your freedom (rights). As long as you serve this master and pay up you are rewarded (like a dog) and you are allowed to live. When you insist on your freedom they will get rid of you.

    When the police and military stops serving the people and the country, and are abused by this democratic government to become a tyranny against the people, then you know there is a beeeg problem. Then freedom flies out the window and slavery and abuse in any form possible is a result. We have more or less the same there. "Inequality" is currently a big democratic thing, any one who doesn't have something is now entitled to someone else's property while those unfair ******** who actually worked to have what they have is not entitled to it any more. You owe others a life.

    That is why the millions of rubbish who doesn't want to work, doesn't have to get an education or a skill "must get" what every one else have while breeding like rats to keep their voters numbers up. It simply boils down to a few that has to work is now burdened with the responsibility to keep others living well - for nothing. This is the bunch that wants the democrats to remain in power (because they "get") and that is why a democracy draws the most votes. In SA (as in the US probably) the country's borders are flung open and the millions stream in to claim their part from inequality that was deliberately an action against them by those that worked to have something.

    Where I come from if you're too lazy to work you die. Now we are paying like 15 x the rate for power, pay more for fuel. and every thing else so, the rest "can get" it for much less or for free. Sowetto alone has an unpaid electricity bill of 3,3 trillion, but hey no problem, we shall pay it for them ! If my power account goes 2 days over they cut it off, yet the "majority vote" under democracy doesn't cut their power off. Oh and don't forget that whites in SA are not allowed to get a job. Further white squatter children are also not allowed to receive any financial aid from any organization. The reason why there are already about 800 000 white squatters in SA is because they are kicked out of jobs so others can get their job. That's almost a 1/3rd of us.

    Are things better in your country than 5 years ago, or worse ? No, it's only going to get worse.

    If you still do not believe me, run over to www.genocidewatch.org/ and see what are the factors which are considered as a genocide on people. Then compare what democrats do there and here, then tell me they are not executing a genocide on a certain group of people. Evil is evil and democrats are malicious.

    In ALL countries where a genocide by the government was executed, the public was disarmed first. In NO countries where people kept their arms has a genocide ever taken place.

    In any three years of "free" "piecefull" "democratic" rule by the anc gov more people have been murdered in any three years than in the 10 years of war in Vietnam.
     
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    "Bloody English" - Fanie
     
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    So you're telling me that all over the world, people are too greedy, selfish, violent and undisciplined to govern themselves? That they need some sort of elite class to rule them with an iron fist and keep them in line? Sorry; I don't buy it.

    We've been voting in this country for well over 200 years now, and we were voting in colonial governments before that. Strangely enough, the anarchy and disintegration of society that you claim is the inevitable result of democracy hasn't happened here yet.

    By the way, we don't have any Soweto's here. Maybe if it hadn't been created there by government policies over the years, you wouldn't have the problems with it today. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind....

    Things certainly aren't any worse here than they were five years ago. If you're claiming the US is on the path to destruction because our minorities are getting uppity and taking over, don't hold your breath. :)
     
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    "The sea is the same as it has been since before men ever went on it in boats."

    - Ernest Hemingway, Hemingway on Fishing
     
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    "There is no dignity in wickedness, whether in purple or rags; and hell is a democracy of devils, where all are equals."
    Herman Melville
     

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