For those who carry arms on their boats-

You keep insisting there's an inverse relationship between gun ownership and education, based solely on some numbers concerning registered voters. But the figures I posted from the National Institute of Health conclusively demonstrate that simply isn't true. In fact, their statistics show the opposite: according to them, better-educated families and higher-income families are more likely to have a gun in the house, not less likely.

That makes perfect sense to me. Throughout history, the upper classes have been better armed than the hoi polloi -- whether their position was based on birth, wealth, political or military power, education, or a combination of those factors.

But I guess your mind is made up, and there's no sense confusing you with facts....

 

Interesting.

The elite most often hire body guards - usually very well 'educated in trade schools.' But, because they 'own' fewer guns, it is considered a reasonable statistic to say the' un-educated own the most guns' .... 'figure it out' ....

Your 'math' adds up to a standard elite PR campaign.

And yes, I can figure it out - with a masters (bachelors just happens to be hard math). A patriot who is not afraid of the elite, or the uneducated.

 

This is one of those occasions that I can agree with you both. Fascists and other tyrants always try to disarm the people so they can commit their foul deeds unchecked.

 

These 500 Christians in Nigeria didn't have guns and were burnt to death simply for following their faith. They were killed by those calling themselves members of the religion of peace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX-ysO2fsJM

Statement by Father Juan Carlos Martos cmf
Secretariat of PV Clarettiani Missionaries


"This is a brutal example of how far the struggle between muslims and catholics in Nigeria has reached.
Muslims are determined to impose their 'religion' all over Africa as well as in other continents and countries
of the world. Islam has but one goal: rule the world at any cost!"

"And where are the International Human Rights Organizations?
Christians are burnt alive in Nigeria: a horrific Holocaust right in front of International indifference!
As denounced by Father Juan Carlos Martos, on behalf of the Missionari Clarettiani, via del Sacro Cuore
di Maria, Rome, Italy."

"By publishing this graphic document on Facebook, I have intended to make the world aware of certain
terrible events totally ignored or minimized by the mainstream media; an authentic genocide so cruel and
inhuman only comparable with the most hateful and vile acts in the nazi extermination camps."

"To my great surprise, Facebook has criticized me for the publication of this graphic document as a proof
of the Holocaust that Christians have been suffering in Nigeria in the last ten years. According to Facebook's
Security policy of the 'social' Network, this photo has been classified as '************', 'violent' or 'inappropriate'
and hence I was disallowed to publish any picture for a week. And I was threatened drastic measures if I insist
publishing any document that prove the terrible violations of Human Rights in Nigeria.
This attitude by the (Spanish) Facebook Management is an attack to the freedom of expression as much as a
shameful insult to the 500 victims (only in this horrible episode) slaughtered by islamic terror only for being christian."

"I thought that this social network, originated in the United States, would not bend its knees in front of terror.
Especially, when still healing their wounds suffered in the gruesome 9/11 attack, just as our own 3/11 at Madrid railway
station, all innocent victims of the wild fury and insanity of islamic terror."

"This seems even more unacceptable in Spain, a Democratic state, where the rights of opinion, expression and religion
are guaranteed by the Constitution (Art. 16 and 20), if there is an attempt to limit such rights, let alone through threats and
coercion thus weakening their freedom of expression by condemning as "inappropriate" a graphic document
(not a photomontage) which reflects a brutal reality in all its crudeness."

"Contrarily, the Administrators of Facebook Spain should welcome this public protest advocating that such a barbarian
act will never be replicated and that its perpetrators will be brought to justice. This is a right and duty of every citizen:
a service to society, ultimate goal, I feel, of any network that defines itself as 'social'."

"Regrettably, if the murders continue, this is greatly because truth is always hidden to the sovereign people, so that they
may not be aware and 'disdained' by it: complicit silence by the mainstream media leads to the indifference of the
international political community facing this unspeakable Holocaust! Let alone the cowardice already rooted in the western
world facing the islamic terror. A consequence of the stupid "Alliance of civilizations": another regrettable incident of our former Prime Minister Rodriguez Zapatero."

"Can you imagine the reaction of the islamic terrorist organization in the (impossible) case of a massacre of muslims in
a mosque, by the hands of christian terrorists? And how widely would our media cover and condemn the crime and the
criminals??"

"Therefore, from this modest blog, I ask a favor from all people who are reading me: please distribute this photo and its comments
using all the media you have. If only for commemorating these martyrs since, unfortunately, Facebook seems to be on the side of
the executioners by preventing the publication of such tragic events."

Juan Carlos Martos cmf Segretariato di PVMissionari ClarettianiVia Sacro Cuore à Maria-500197-Rome

 

It's only going to get worse before it gets better.
The Spanish Catholics must have short memories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls

 

Again turning a mole hill into a mountain.
You are a Scary dude to be possessed so much by guns and to think you are some form of Rambo living by the paranoid
Rules of Gunfighting
. Have a gun.
Bring all of your friends who have guns.
. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
"Why did you shoot only once? There's no additional paperwork for shooting someone twice!" -- Firearms Instructor P.O.J.D., MOS debriefing after a shooting.
Bring ammo. - The right ammo.- Lots of it.. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly."
Be polite. Be professional. But... have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

What I find unbelievable is you said to me that you knew no one in person that had been killed by a gun also that you said you knew nobody that knew some one in person killed by a gun after I told you of several of my close friends been killed by guns in New Zealand , one shot death in the USA.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anything you say Troy
With your jealousness about Kim Dotcom firearms I do not know the circumstances and nor do you and is just another of your mole hills trying to turn a mole hill into a mountain.
You are jealous of Kim Dotcom as you work twelve hour shifts plus 500 hours over time a year while Kim aged 38 has a successful life from his genius creativity and you are at 65 still on the tools.
I am not looking down on you because you are on the tools as I am also go on the tools but what time and money I find spend this on boat designs and inventions trying to achieve just a slight fraction what Kim Dotcom has done with his life.
I also find it unbelievable you spend so much time blogging when you say you work so many hours? Its sounds just like the story you have never heard of any one you know been shot or know any one that knows someone that seen shot.
Hmmmmmmmmm

 

The country is a big place. What makes you so sure Troy knew your close friend in person?
I also haven't known anyone personally who has been shot. I've had two people I knew killed in car accidents. Most have been killed by diseases and health problems.

 

All the land talk aside, when I look at the title "those who carry arms on their boats", I can't help but to think yes...

You need them aboard a boat the same way you need a fire extinguisher or life jackets.

It's not like you can call the police if people are boarding you.

 

What I find interesting is these gun owners come out with remarkable quotes to every one else like you wont need one , very unlikely, you would need to be in the wrong place , you screwed up etc etc but wont leave the house without it. Gonzo says he goes shopping with his but Gonzo is way past normality and must feel extreme inferiority and is the target for the gun restrictions.

Like my little story of the Brit tourist being told why you need guns in US and then met with horror that the tourist agreed and wanted one for exactly the reasons he had been told --Oh no , but ,but not for you only for Americans yet a tourist would be in far more risky situation.

My little play on the Brit tourist made it to a gun forum in US .

They do believe that its never them that has the problems, its always someone else but that is American.

 

You must be young
Troy never knew my close freind and do not know why you ask ?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ltcCF_cAQ&feature=player_detailpage

Kim Dotcom aka MEGARACER is #1 in Modern Warfare 3.
Leaderboards #1 for Kills and Leaderboards #1 for Free-For-All.

Currently over 150,000 kills. Best of 15+ million online players!
Don't hate me because I beat you. Respect me because I teach you

 

About 9pm, the crew were relaxing on deck when a group of armed and masked robbers boarded the Seamaster stealthily.

The crew were overwhelmed near the cockpit with guns held to their heads. In the confusion, Sir Peter was able to escape downstairs.

He returned with a rifle and shot one of the bandits in the hand, severing his finger. But then the skipper's gun seized up and, as he turned to try to fix it, he was fatally shot in the back.

The robbers left shooting. One of the crew, Geoff Bullock, had a close shave when a bullet glanced across his back, others had knife injuries, but only Sir Peter lost his life.

 

You said it was "unbelievable" he didn't know someone who had been shot. I haven't had any friends who were shot either. It's a big place. It depends on the people you surround yourself with. And it depends where you are. I see people on TV who have been shot every week. I avoid intercity crime areas and I avoid people who have drinking and drug problems.

 

WOW .... Wiki was not terribly anti-Catholic in reporting on the death totals .... I am surprised.

And they placed the accurate death toll at less than 10 per year (average).

 

What would have happened if the Captain hadn't had a gun?
Would the Brazillian pirates have taken the crew?
Would they have dumped the crew and taken Seamaster?
Or were the pirates only after watches, pocket money, and loose equipment for a quick robbery?