Timber Coast 22

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  1. musher169
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    Hello to all you boat building folks. I new to the forum and plan on becoming a active member. Hoping to harvest all the good knowledge from everyone.

    I am in the process of building a timbercoast 22. I have got the bulkheads cut out and am in the process of laminating the stem and stern post. The chines are also getting laminated. I am hoping to start the frame up of the hull after the holidays.

    Is anybody else that you know of currently building a timbercoast 22? What is the most efficient way of drilling the hole for your engine shaft with correct angle and precision?

    I am also trying to build this boat for a fraction of the cost by salvaging parts from cast away boats. If you have anything in your garage that may help my project and it has been in your way check out this link to help.
    http://gogetfunding.com/project/boatbuilding-the-timber-coast-22.

    Hoping to meet some ambitious boat builders here
     
  2. michael pierzga
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  3. Lister

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    Yes I give. To charity, not boat builder.
    I am afraid you will see that a "fraction of the cost" doesn't exist.
    Good luck to you.
    Lister
     
  4. Tad
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    Tad Boat Designer

    Musher,

    If you look at the general construction drawing you'll see the deadwood is laminated parallel to the shaft line. Before bonding the pieces above and below the shaft tube, notch them to form a ready made pilot hole. Once the deadwood is in place (before or after you turn the hull) use that pilot hole with a nice long auger (weld extension on it) to drill upwards (into the boat from outside) through the apron and inner block. If this seems really hard make up a guide frame at the correct angle and drill down from inside to meet your pilot hole. As Paul mentions (see link above) use small drills first then a bigger one or make a boring bar.
     
  5. musher169
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    Thanks for the good information already.

    Tad, Thanks for the information. The boring of the hole is not for some time but it has been one of my concerns. I am looking forward to the build and your prints have been great to work with. Would increasing the keel to 2 1/2 inchs be acceptable for this boat. Having only a small amount of wood on each side of shaft has me nervous after boring the whole.

    Have any timbercoast been produced to date besides the aluminum version? Is anybody else out there currently building a timbercoast? The hull sure looks like a sound ocean going craft. How were the performance feedback from the aluminum build?

    Thanks again for your time.
     
  6. Tad
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    Mush,
    Again if you check the general construction drawing (full size keel section) you will see 3/8" ply "cheeks" either side of the keel in the shaft area. These provide good cross grain strength in this area after boring the shaft hole. Bond the cheeks on before fiberglass sheathing the hull.

    Do not change the keel thickness.

    There are a number of builds under way I believe though I have no specific information. Bill has direct contact with builders, I just answer the occasional question.

    The owner of the aluminum boat seems very happy, and the short cruise I took aboard her was pleasing. I think Bill had her up over 7 knots with the 28HP Nanni in a light load condition.
     
  7. musher169
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    I just did a pick on a old Chris craft and picked up all sorts of great stuff at a fraction of the cost. Nav lights. Portholes bilge pumps. Panel. Etc. Fractional cost do exist everywhere. Thanks for donating to just causes. Happy holidays
     
  8. rasorinc
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    Musher169, The Glen L people have a lot of stuff and pictures about drilling a hole for your driveshaft. http://www.glen-l.com/ Check their forum history and their news letters. I've seen many pictures and instructions and how to get a bit long enough, but do not have time to search for them now.
    Stan
     
  9. 805gregg
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    Not possibe, hull speed is 6 knots
     
  10. Milehog
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    'Hull speed' is not absolute.
     
  11. Tad
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    Tad Boat Designer

    Below is the speed/fuel/power use on her first trial. The boat was light and unfinished, displacement perhaps around 3000 pounds....but I have no measurements of that. The pictures were taken at that load condition. At her completed "Full Load" condition of over 4000 pounds the owner reported "cruised about 300 miles (San Juans and Gulf Islands) in very good weather, burned about 25 us gallons of fuel."


    PrelimfuelTT22.jpg

    TCT22pic2.jpg

    TCT22pic3.jpg
     
  12. Jimmyb116
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    Did this project get started? Just ordered the plans and was wondering if anyone else was building one at this time.
     
  13. Tad
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    Jimmy,

    The first post in this thread stated that he had started construction, and I know of one other plywood 22' under way in Australia. There are a fair number of plan sets out there now, but I have no idea how builders are progressing.
     
  14. Jimmyb116
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    Thanks Tad I was hopping the builder would chime in and let us know how it's going.
    I ordered the plans a week ago and hope they arrive soon. It would be nice to get started on the material list for the hull portion so I can start getting some quotes on materials.
     

  15. BelleCanto
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    This is great news

    I stumbled across the picture of the aluminium timbercoast 22 and I can't believe how beautiful this design is. I've lived on the coast of Nova Scotia most of my life and I must have seen a million boats. And been out in a few of them. But I've never seen one that instantly appealed to me like this. I am planning on building a boat and I'm glad to see that other people are building this design. Forgetting about potential cost, would this be a very technically difficult project for an amateur builder? I have earned my living as a carpenter most of my life, and I'm comfortable with tools. Just looking for an honest opinion. Thanks.
     
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