Hurricane Sandy

Things are still very bad there and I can assure you they have not shrugged it off. They are undergoing very challenging times. This will have a lasting impact.

 

They should have it all cleaned up by the time another one strikes later this
year, or next year, or the year after that...

 

Takes awhile to rebuild all those houses on the New Jersey shore that had great veiws of the breakers.

 

Much of the damage occurred on land which transitory at best.

Barrier Islands actively migrate through a process of material transport during 'overwash' events.
Research has long shown that artificially buttressing dunes causes instability to the island structure and is being abandoned in favor of the natural state of things.
This leaves all those houses and man made structures as so much sand which is carried shoreward with the rest as the island band migrates.
The high development density of these Barrier islands is temporary at best and foolhardy at worse if steps are continually taken to 'protect' property there..

 

Houses in flood zones should not be re-built. The land should be set aside for parkland of farming and not be re-built in those low-lying areas, especially at taxpayer expense.

 

Another of my MEDIA BEEFS. The Media is asking for sympathy forthese folks instead of highlighting the cold fact. Sea Levels will rise, your house will be swept away again and maybe its time to take your insurance claim, abandon the zone and build elsewhere.

 

Sea levels do rise in these situations, but not globally as in AGW, but that is for a climate thread. This is a weather event.

 

Err...emmm...Sorry, I grew up there.

Its My Hood'

"Analyzing tide-level data from much of North America, U.S. Geological Survey scientists unexpectedly found that sea levels in the 600-mile (1,000-kilometer) stretch of coast from Cape Hatteras (map), North Carolina, to the Boston area climbed by about 2 to 3.8 millimeters a year, on average, between 1950 and 2009."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...-east-coast-us-science-nature-climate-change/

 

And now they will go back down as the warming cycle has ended.

 

It is not clear whether sea level rise is climate forced or the result of tectonic movement, subsistance, ground water...... It is only a fact that sea level is rising ..hence... the media should highlight it and the resident should be prepared. Obviuosly special interests prevent this.

 

If the land is sinking in one place it is rising in another. Tectonic movement certainly lies outside the dominion of Man. Sea level is not rising. You might even say sea level is dropping if you look at Florida. The highland ridge running down the state was formed by deposition of submarine sand dunes which now rise over a hundred feet above sea level, but as I said, this thread is about a hurricane not climate.

 

"Tectonic movement certainly lies outside the dominion of Man "

Who cares !!! Its not neccasary to find someone to blame...this is not a class action lawsuite, it is simply science. The east coast sea level is rising and society should take the appropriate actions.

 

If it is rising there is nothing "society" can do to stop it, only make everyone miserable with stupid obstructionist regulation.

 

Hoyte.

Sea level IS rising.

Want to know how I know this?

Just the other day I took a ice cube out of my fridge and devil may care tossed it into the sea..

Now I am not claiming responsibility for the NJ flooding and one may say the rise is 'unmeasurable'.. but the resolution of your tide gauge is 'sniff'.. not my problem...

Now lets look at what may be 'measurable'.
Glaciers the world over have been rapidly retreating for decades.
Where do you think all that water is going?

 

You have touched on what I believe is the fundamental failure of mordern societies - combined with our growth, modern cities are expanding fixtures that by nature must be doomed because of the cycle necessary to create it's very existance.

Modern means industry that requires resources that development of those resources create changes - far reaching changes that cannot be reversed and are inenvitable therefore as we create our comfort zones we are destroying our zones by the combination of change versus our inability to adapt to change by our lack of mobility.

The short version - I think our very basic need for fixture and stability is inevitabily what will be that that will destroy us

I'm so deep I'm scary