Late Steve Job's yacht launched

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    I agree. To me it looks like a river boat on steroids.

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    LOL folks, I've just noticed one thing... Check the attached pic!
    Perhaps this case could go into "Dare to say no" thread. ;)
     

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    Yes...it does look like they stacked Ipads.

    Does anyone know if there are any innovative mechanical details, house services, eco friendly details on the boat ? The shipyard is world class and the client had piles of cash
     
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    I like its looks. Not as a yacht but as a sculpture. It would make a great home on a hillside.
     
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    I see it's not clear which 2012 presentation is Vripack. It's the one by Marnix Hoekstra. It's seven minutes if you skip the first 40 seconds, which you should. If this motoryacht styling business is a subject that interests you it's worth the seven minutes. I, for one, would be interested in what your ideas are, but would prefer you see Marnix Hoekstra's presentation first for context.
     
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    Its a shame that when Im on board the yacht I cant watch video...too bandwidth intensive. It would be interesting to listen to what he has to say
     
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    Saw the video, and it was an interesting presentation. Market driven vs. Collaborative design.
    Did I misunderstood Mr. Hoekstra's ideas or it is essentially the same as Mass-produced vs. One-off?
    If so, then I am really failing to see the news in that presentation. Every design is a "collaborative" job, done with a client's input and feedback.

    I am also failing to see what is the "social" and "networking" part in this story. Boats are not done for communities of people. They are done for a specific client (be it a private, industrial, or governmental subject) and his needs. Could you by chance express his ideas in a more clear manner for late-bloomers like me, so that we can discuss them? :)
     
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    If you're saying nothing is ever REALLY new, there's some truth to that. As a designer wanting to get into the game myself (on a small scale with small boats, mostly sail, paddle, rowing with engines coming into it as auxiliary power) I'm asking: how far do I go in developing my own look and brand, and how do I understand the market I'm entering? If I want to appeal to people younger than I, do I take a different approach than I would designing for baby boomers? As someone who has been developing upscale interiors here in New York, recently for Russian clients, I find Hoekstra's observations about the tastes prevalent among different national groups interesting (whether right or wrong).

    How does designing a boat differ from designing consumer electronics?
     
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    My reaction also. It looks like a house designed to sit on a California hillside.
     
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    The life span of a well designed yacht may be 40, 50 years. Consumer electronics is in the trash can by next christmas.

    To my eyes.." style driven" naval architecture ages very fast..in 5 years it will be out of fashion. Great naval architecture, design, appeals for the life cycle of the yacht.

    Lady Beatrice is ancient, 20 years ? yet still looks stylish in the fleet
     

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    I agree. Another example - a 1995 Feadship, her name is "Battered Bull":

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    If you happen to see her around you will inevitably stop to admire her, even after all these years. Her lines have that natural, harmonious and sexy distribution of volumes, curves and straight lines, which Starck's Venus simply doesn't have.

    Of course, beauty might be in the eye of the beholder - but imo just to some extent. I think that some things, like the attraction to certain geometrical proportions, are simply part of our human nature.
     
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    It looks to me like a guy that is absolutely terrified of the public. He built a floating fortress.
     
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    It isn't my cup of tea. But I'd say that at least it's a coherent, fairly integrated design, instead of just being a mishmash of parts. Unlike some of the over-sized, over-priced turds I've seen floating around that look like they were designed by a committee using a dice cup....
     
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    I posted my view on the Steve Jacobs/Phillippe Starck collaboration some months back.

    I don't have a problem with PS design concepts in general but I think he should be prevented from designing anything that floats...perhaps a count injunction ABO - he should not be within a 1000ft of a boat or boat design.

    I guess the flip side is the travelling public can be grateful for the fact that PS hasn't (yet) considered designing aircraft.
     

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    I wonder, why everyone is sure the boat in question was designed and completed by late Mr. Jobs? Perhaps, he really didn't care at the end and someone else had a ball designing and convincing his family that this "would be a nice boat?" -- Just a question for the above assumptions...
     
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