Global Warming? are humans to blame?

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Do you believe

  1. Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity.

    106 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. IF Gloabal Warming is occurring it is as a result of Non-Human or Natural Processes.

    99 vote(s)
    48.3%
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  1. BPL
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    I haven't seen problems, but I see change. This year is the warmest I remember. Much less snow. Warmer spring. That's good for me. But something is changing.
     
  2. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Climate is always changing, has been always changing.

    Weather is even MORE VOLATILE!

    Old saying, "If you don't like the weather, wait a minute!" :cool:
     
  3. variverrunner
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    Yobodoodle :

    Yobo: Who finances the AGW deniers? I'd guess the oil companies.

    So I guess you believe that the Oil Companies have raised the cost of Gas to over $4.00 a gallon to save the World from the New World Order?

    Wow

    You are brilliant
     
  4. Yobarnacle
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    I suspect the price of oil is high, because the market will bear it. When any product's sales slump, prices come down.
    I have no connection or inside information regarding oil companies. I do think international companies are a sneaky way of avoiding taxes.
    Since a corporation is an artificial person under the law, it should have a nationality and pay income tax like citizens. We don't permit 'international ' citizenship, why tolerate international companies?!
    That should convince you I'm no agent for ANY big business! :)

    Don't presume to put words in my mouth.
    I'm not bashfull about telling you my opinion.
    You don't have to speculate or invent opinions for me.

    When those of you who think to demean me with silly childish names like "Yobodoodle " go to the head, does your mommy come clean you when you are done? :D
    in the future, I'll shorten that sentence to "Tu Madre"! :)
     
  5. variverrunner
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    Well?

    Yobbo,

    Are the OIL Companies and your "I'd rather be dead than-red friends" funding the deniers of AGW to save the World from the Illuminatti?


    What do you think? I guess it could be possible??? Or maybe its for some other more basic reason???
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    My assessment of AGW, is it lacks sufficient credibility to warrant skeptics or deniers.
    I prefer the various points of view that do not accept AGW or more specific, Catastrophic AGW Alarmism, or warm-mongers for short,
    be known as the "Dreadnoughts" or modern english "Fear-not" (for the lord is with thee) :D
     
  7. RayThackeray
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    POLL: "Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity" now up to 52.2% - Yobbo, your preposterous tin-foil hat poppycock just continues to get sillier and sillier and driving the vote higher for AGW.

    For anyone looking into this thread, here's the latest load of drivel we've been putting up with.

    Let's see, Yobbo posted this at 2am where he lives. What say he's still awake, hunched over his keyboard with a candle lit, cackling like the troll he is?

     
  8. variverrunner
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    Dreadnoughts ?

    Yobbo :

    Yobbo,

    You aren't a skeptic of AGW?



    Dreadnoughts? Is this your website?

    http://www.thedreadnoughts.com/


    You named your group after a self proclaimed drunken polka band?


    Wow. Do you guys have secret decoder rings and other cool stuff?



    My ribs still hurt.
     
  9. bntii
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    "Spanish researchers claim to have found a way to accurately predict how quickly and widely new pieces of information, or memes as they are called, will spread. The ability to forecast this viral behaviour would be of great interest to sociologists and marketeers, among others."

    http://www.computerweekly.com/news/1280090471/Party-people-spread-viral-internet-memes

    The spread of talking points on this issue have long used marketing concepts on the net so as to appear have a broader base of acceptance than actually exists.

    I think all casual researchers are at risk of being inundated by 'marketed' arguments.


    "The term Internet meme (play /ˈmiːm/ MEEM)[1] is used to describe a concept that spreads via the Internet.[2] The term is a reference to the concept of memes, although the latter concept refers to a much broader category of cultural information. The earliest known usage of the word meme is in the book The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins published in 1976."
    "Their rapid growth and impact has caught the attention of both researchers and industry.[3] Academically, researchers model how they evolve and predict which memes will survive and spread throughout the Web. Commercially, they are used in viral marketing where they are an inexpensive form of mass advertising."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme

    Don't be a 'tool'...
    Use primary sources and draw your own conclusions.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool
     
  10. troy2000
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    The trouble is that collectivism is just another catch word -- a label to slap on anything you disagree with, so you can brand it as evil and therefore inherently wrong. Just like commie pinko, liberal, leftist, socialist, and all the other words that really only mean, "he dares to agree with my head-up-my-tail, irrational, rigid opinions."
     
  11. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    I'm an individual, not a member of any group, except by coincidence of opinion.

    1770: Mayer Amschel Rothschild draws up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and entrusts Ashkenazi Jew, Adam Weishaupt, a Crypto-Jew who was outwardly Roman Catholic, with its organization and development.

    1776: Adam Weishaupt officially completes his organisation of the Illuminati on May 1

    1784: Adam Weishaupt issues his order for the French Revolution in book form, written by one of Weishaupt's associates, Xavier Zwack. The book detailing this plan was discovered by the police, and handed over to the Bavarian authorities.

    Clearly, the Bavarian authorities were convinced that the book that was discovered was a very real threat by a private group of influential people, to use wars and revolutions to achieve their political ends.

    1785: The Bavarian government outlaw the Illuminati and close all the Bavarian lodges of the Grand Orient.

    1786: The Bavarian government publish the details of the Illuminati plot in a document entitled, "The Original Writings of The Order and Sect of The Illuminati." They then send this document to all the heads of church and state throughout Europe, but sadly their warning is ignored.

    1) Use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of men already in high places, in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavour. Once influential persons had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and fiscal harm, even death to themselves and loved members of their families.
    2) The faculties of colleges and universities were to cultivate students possessing exceptional mental ability belonging to well-bred families with international leanings, and recommend them for special training in internationalism, or rather the notion that only a one-world government can put an end to recurring wars and strife. Such training was to be provided by granting scholarships to those selected by the Illuminati.

    3) All influential people trapped into coming under the control of the Illuminati, plus the students who had been specially educated and trained, were to be used as agents and placed behind the scenes of all governments as experts and specialists. This was so they would advise the top executives to adopt policies which would in the long-run serve the secret plans of the Illuminati one-world conspiracy and bring about the destruction of the governments and religions they were elected or appointed to serve.

    4) To obtain absolute-control of the press, at that time the only mass-communications media which distributed information to the public, so that all news and information could be slanted in order to make the masses believe that a one-world government is the only solution to our many and varied problems.


    http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt

    Rothschilds Control Entire British and World Media January 17, 2012
    http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/proof-rothschilds-control-entire-british-and-world-media/
     
  12. Yobarnacle
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    Is the rothschild dynasty worth over 500 trillion and do they own all the central banks of the world like the fed bank of England?

    AdsAnswer:.Yes. That's true.

    $500 trillion is an extremely conservative estimate. Its based on an assumption of only an 8% return on their holdings since 1931, when some speculate the return is near 100% per annum.


    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_ro...ld_like_the_fed_bank_of_England#ixzz1vsafy9L5

    As an example, the US government reports (bea.gov) every year on the dollar value of US assets owned by foreigners at the end of the year and Foreign assets owned by US entities. These numbers are both much larger than $10 Trillion. $21 Trillion and $18 Trillion respectively. That means "outsider ownership" grosses to at least $40 Trillion just considering the US relative to everyone else. The Total US Debt from all sources is more than $50 Trillion (just to keep you focused on how big the global numbers really are)

    Conservative estimates of total asset value for the US economy at CURRENT value range between $75 Trillion (at net) and $250 Trillion (at full realized value of every asset available for consumption).

    $500 Trillion worth of assets world wide is, thus, reasonable by more than a handful of measures.
    http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110321074943AAl44dl
     
  13. Boston

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    Good morning all.

    Nah. He tipped his hand real early

    I saw it from a mile away

    the instant he couldn't comprehend that CO2 was a greenhouse gas, the primary greenhouse gas, and a product of combustion. Then went on to being confused by a simple calculation of how much oil, gas, coal we burn every day. I could tell we had a live one right then and there.

    Granted its rare, there's only been two or three who just absolutely weren't able to comprehend the basics, but they are out there, and I mean waaaaaaaaaay out there, :p:D:p:D:p:D

    Then throw in all that gwod crap, :p:D:p:D:p:D the smoking is goof for you :p:D:p:D:p and the its a conspiracy :idea::idea::idea:

    Nah, from miles away, miles and miles and miles away. With a big red flashing light bulb glued to his forehead.

    Yabs firmly in his happy place and all he's ever going to see is butterflies and zebras, moonbeams and fairy tales.
     
  14. ImaginaryNumber
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  15. Yobarnacle
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    I'm not afraid in a 'fear' sense.

    If you use afraid as the vernacular, "I'm afraid that's true." then I AM concerned there IS, and has been a multi century, plot to create one world government, and much has been achieved to that end, during recent 50 years.

    I am not CERTAIN of any of it, but antique documents outlining the plan do exist, and the same family that planned it, has achieved many of these planned objectives recently.

    I believe AGW is probably a tactical ploy to that end, one world government.

    Could you imagine a BETTER unifying world strategy?
    Perhaps aliens attacking from outer space, but that would be difficult to fake.

    Using a natural occurring, dependable, reliable multidecadal minute rise in temperatures, can PREDICT via models, an ENORMOUS temperature rise during the next generation.
    Coupled with near economic colapses, high unemployment, and huge national debts, the young adults are going to be feeling VERY put upon by the former "selfish" generations.
    Also, force feed AGW as a FACT to school children, so as they reach adult hood, they are SUPER ticked off at the elderly.

    Over population?
    Unburden the world of "useless" elderly population who suck the juice from the workers and guilty, they screwed up the world! I suggest better than 50/50 chance this will be a near future "meme".
    Euthanasia and genocide of the old, will be touted as the best solution to rid excess world population and solve social security and rising medicare costs!
     
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