Somali pirates

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  1. Fanie
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    I gave Troy some, but I think I gave him too much.
    How do I deduct half :D

    That was a joke in case some half witted phantom starts getting any more ideas.

    Who ever the **** was that deducted did exactly what a pirate does. Lets find out who it was and set him adrift on a deflating car tube with 22 small holes in it. I want to see how he keeps his fingers, toes, dcik and tonge in them holes :(
     
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    I respect all forum members as people. I believe THEY earnestly believe in their opinions.
    I have my own views of course.

    Taunts can be infuriating, but only if you let them. Frosty taught me that.
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    Better yet let's "sprit" him. Send him to the end of the bow sprit and never again permitted aboard. If he can hang on without food and water till he's close enough to shore to swim for it? Good for him. Otherwise....fishfood.

    or a grizzly figure head!
     
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    I haven't paid much attention to Ron Paul. But doesn't he want a return to the Gold Standard? If so, he's naive and hopelessly stuck in the past. The success of the Gold Standard depended on specific historical circumstances and balances of power, which are long gone. In fact, it broke down during the first World War, and was only artificially cobbled back together and kept somewhat viable for a limited time afterwards.
     
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    I think you gave me too many, too. But I'll treasure each and every one of them....:D
     
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    Thanks Yob.

    Was it Frosty then ! He was online a second ago now suddenly he's left !
     
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    actually, Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1972.

    Paul doesn't want the gold standard, but wants to nationalize the Federal Reserve Bank (privately owned by bankers) and eliminate income tax and the IRS. All three were created almost the same time and are interdependent.

    The Fed Bank prints money out of thin air, then loans it to the government and we pay interest to the Fed Bank on that national debt (the loan)! Something wrong with THAT picture!
     
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    Nationalizing The Federal Reserve Bank would eliminate most of our national debt. Also, in the constitution, only the government has authority to print money. Federal Reserve Notes are unconstitutional.
    They replaced Silver certificates dollars which earlier replaced Gold certificates (FDR did that. Made gold coins and private held bullion illegal.)
     
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    You're close...

    That is what got 2 US presidents shot ! but you have the right idea.

    A government shouldn't have a single person as a minister or president in a high post - only a representative and a group of people who does not get rewarded for making the decisions. It will rule corruption and bribery out. Those making decisions does so in the best interest of the country. Political parties isn't required then either. The public rule themselves.

    What is done by governments is wrong, they are supposed to serve the people, not they rule over the people and people work for them. That was why the Civil war was started. If you devide you don't win, someone else stands to gain from this.
     
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    The super rich northern industrialists, bankers, and railroad barons ruled their states. They wanted a powerfull central government so they could rule ALL states. State and local rights lost the war.

    Yes Kennedy wanted to eliminate the Federal Reserve. Said so in some of his speeches! Who else was killed by powerfull bank interests?
     
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    How's it working out in Safrica?
     
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    Not good. Same happens in the US now as happened here. It's complicated and deceiving, but we're getting to the bottom of it.

    Only those operating on both sides of a war stands to win.
     
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    How would nationalizing the Fed make the national debt go away? Does that just mean its debts would magically disappear, or would we just default on them? I don't believe the former, and the latter would be a dishonest breach of faith.
     
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    That's the problem with imprecise language. The gold standard refers to an international system that was in place from roughly 1870 until 1914, when it was destroyed by the First World War. That system was dead and buried years before Nixon came along. What was in place instead was a jury-rigged, unsustainable replacement.....
    The US can't unilaterally set up and sustain a gold standard, without the cooperation of other major economic powers. If we do, everyone one else in the world will start cheerfully raiding our treasury with every dollar they receive in international trade, until they've drained us dry. When we have no gold reserves left, what will we do then? (hint: thin air....).
     

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    Who created national debt in the first place ? and why is it suddenly a problem ? when public has always been working and earning and performing positive...

    Something else brought the crisis along - artificially so the panic would start. Find the hidden source.

    The Fed is under who'se control ? No not the US. Then someone else controls the US... He who controls the banks...

    Read and become wise.
     
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