Last voyage for Costa Concordia cruise ship

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  1. viking north
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    Possibly so but it will cost them more in fuel to get there than the job is worth. Man thats big gear.
     
  2. CliffordK
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    100,000 tons of steel
    $400 per ton.
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    $40,000,000

    That's probably a bit on the generous side for the value of scrap, but it might depend on the processing prior to sale.

    If the ship is refloated, I wouldn't be surprised if it is rebult, but it would mean stripping it down to the bare steel, and starting over again. The hull is certainly under significant stress. If it cracks or deforms, it may not be worth rebuilding.

    Would the hull be able to be recertified as a cruise ship? Or is it destined to be used as a ferry in some 3rd world country or as a research platform? Or perhaps a permanently docked floating hotel? Floating Casino?

    I would think that if there is any hope to refloat the ship intact, the salvors would be eager to get started as soon as possible.

    I doubt that the Italians or those living on the Island of Giglio wish to have that monstrosity rotting on their beaches. But, I think they should be given the option to have the hulk slid off the reef if possible, and sunk nearby for diving and fish habitat.
     
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  3. Nick.K
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    There are (were?) plans to turn the decommissioned Ark-royal aircraft carrier in to a diving reef off Devon.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/13/hms-ark-royal-diving-reef
    "Members of Torbay council's harbour committee voted unanimously to support the proposal to sink the Royal Navy's former flagship six miles off the English Riviera."

    ....They obviously thought it would boost local tourism.
     
  4. CliffordK
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    That is a massive crane.

    However, if you read the article.
    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/recovery/AJ2011102015329

    The Asia Symphony had a weight of about 4724 tons.
    The crane had a capacity of about 4000 tons.

    So, significant weight was removed from the ship before lifting.

    The Concordia has a weight over 110,000 tons.

    You'd need a fleet of about 30 of those cranes to lift it.
     
  5. IEWinkle
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    I'm afraid you are mistaking Gross Tonnage (volume) for weight - even Japanese journalists cannot get it right! The weight of the vessel will be significantly less than 4000 tonne for a deadweight of 6175 tonne and may well be the 2,300 tonne quoted.
     
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  6. peter radclyffe
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    its worth nothing cut up,
    lets guess it will cost 1,000 euros to dispose of 1 ton ?
    will they try to float it
    its worth millions left there
     
  7. CliffordK
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    Ahhh...
    Thanks
    So the Costa Concordia Displacement is 51,387 tonnes, which is more or less the weight of the steel and structure.

    That means that the scrap value is down to about $20,000,000... still quite a bit.

    It is still much bigger than the Asia Symphony.

    I suppose the goal of a couple of large floating cranes wouldn't be to lift the ship out of the water, but rather to roll it upright, and give it support as the holds are patched and pumped out. Or, perhaps get it floated to a submerged drydock.

    I doubt the locals will want to look at it every day. At least if I lived on a pristine Italian island, I don't think I'd want to wake up to see a rusting hulk every day. But, it should be a relatively easy task to sink it nearby as everything indicates its perch is unstable.
     
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    The gov. has sunk a couple of de-commissioned military ships here off the coast of Nova Scotia as artifical reefs and dive sites. Prior To their sinking alot of money and manpower is required to strip them of envioumentally concerned products (lubricating gear oils and greese)(any products containing PCB's, Plastic products dangerious to marine life ingestion and so on).Items that might break loose and float to the surface. Think of the number of bed mattraces in this ship. The problem with todays finishing and outfitting products is they are made up of so many chemicals verses say the products used in the Titanic. The other consideration is, these salvaged products are possibly worth as much as the scrap value of the hull. Batroom fixtures alone would bring in a tidy sum. I don't think it would be a simple matter of just pushing it over the reef into deeper water. Enviormental concerns would have to be satisfied first. My guess is as mentioned, they will try to salvage it as a complete unit.
     
  9. michael pierzga
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    Im sure Costa would prefer to leave their rig parked , throw away all of Concordia cruise brochures and forget about it. WHAT SHIP ? It cheap.

    I think its better to vacuum as much cash as possible out of Costa's pockets...distribute it to working seamen on salvage ships...then park Concordia as a reef in some place suitable
     
  10. Submarine Tom

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    What a tourist attraction!

    And with climate change bringing the sea level up, it'll be an artificial reaf in no time.

    What a great thread, so diverse.

    -Tom
     
  11. bntii
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    20 million in steel..

    Speaking from a position of comfortable ignorance.. Won't any salvage operation cost far more the the value in scrap?
    They must have passed a few million in costs already in just survey work and pulling the fuel off.

    edit- I am seeing some rumors that Bisso Marine (a US firm) may be given the salvage contract which could cost "hundreds of millions".
     
  12. hoytedow
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    The sea level will drop with the temperatures, so the hulk will be marooned on dry land if it doesn't dissolve first. :)

    http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/ancient-sea-levels-rewrite-ice-age-transitions

    "Be safe, enjoy the interglacial and stay skeptical."
     
  13. Submarine Tom

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    Ohhhhhhhhhh...

    -Tom
     
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    Ahhhhhhhhh...
     

  15. CliffordK
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    The global average calculated rate of sea level rise is about 3mm per year.
    In a decade that would be about 3cm.
    Over a century it would be about 30cm.

    The superstructure will rust and crumble long before it is overtopped by sea level rise which has been happening since the beginning of the Holocene.
     
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