crowther 10 hull refit: how much ?

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  1. sabahcat
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  2. cavalier mk2
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    I think you should go for the catalac or something like it. It has what you want, the patient would love the bed, they have a good reputation and its affordable. It might be fun to see what shipping to Oz would run and they are narrow enough for those Euro canal tours.
     
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    You do realize euro canals and oz are at opposite ends of the world :p
     
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    Yes but the boat is in Britain. Might be fun to cruise those waters then ship it home. When you get a boat for less than 15,000A instead of 50-70,000 it opens up some cruising options.;)
     
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    G'day bloke. 4 ?'s Do you want to go sailing? 1/ or build boats?, 2/ how quickly?, 3/ with how many 'creature comforts?, 4/ State of the art -sailing gear & sails? - - just to mention a few.


    Suggest you phone or go to a 1/ sailmaker, 2/ yacht mast & rigging factory. There you will find the start of what it will cost you to go sailing - in the real oceans. Suspect the answers will range from 1/ sailmaker - $40k to $240K & then 2/ the rigger - $30K to $130K - all AUD. I'm a semi-retired yacht builder/repairer/cruiser/racer for over 40 years & you couldn't talk me into a project like that - if you paid all the bills. I personally - want to go sailing & spend time on the water NOT in a shed workin-me-***-off for the next 3 to 5 years. I personally wish to sail a cat or tri that is a tad quick & obeys the KISS rules of sailing. I'm on 07 40 93 9900 - give me a quick call & I'll phone you back (sure hope your mobile is a Telstra one - then it's free for me to phone you back & we'll talk). Take much care - once you've committed to it - it's impossible to get out with your skin. Ciao, james
     
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    Wow, you must like getting spam and sales calls eh?
    you should be careful what you put out there, all sorts of nutters around

    Nice cockatoo by the way ;)
     
  7. guzzis3
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    Seeing the asking prices at multihull yacht sales just makes that gypsy look irresistible. I mean for goodness sake you could buy 4 and sail them into the ground for the price of that pod cat.

    Silver Raven:

    Do you want to go sailing? Yes
    or build boats? No time
    how quickly? No rush
    with how many 'creature comforts? not many
    State of the art -sailing gear & sails? No absolutely not.

    I am not sure what you mean by the real oceans. Moreton Bay is as scary as any water I've ever seen when it's tempers up.

    I learned to sail on keel boats and was "turned" to cats not because of speed but because they make headway so EASILY, I just love that you can chuck up any old rag and get 6 knots. I am not a tremendous fan of electronics. I do have a lowrance ifinder go which is a wonderful little device. I acknowledge that compass sextant and paper charts are far from foolproof (and I'm the fool to prove it) and the whiz bang stuff is getting cheaper by the year.

    I also mostly sail close to shore so landmark bearings are usually available. Queensland has a lot of thin water and I've never been fond of daggerboards for that reason.

    Oh well, perhaps the "perfect" boat will appear. Certainly the market is much more reasonable lately.
     
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    G'day 'saba' - Somehow I don't get many (not 4 a month) spam & sales calls Geeeze - shouldn't have said that either. Oooops, bugger!!!

    At my 'very young age' ha ha - I can handle all the 'nutters' I've come across, at least so far. Have a line to the national controller of 'nutters' but thanks again for the reminder.

    "Picky' by name, 40 years young (they live to 100 yrs), 2nd largest Northern Sulphur on record. Other than 'my green-eyed Lady' she's my best mate. 1.5 mtr long wing-span, stands almost 400mm - when eating my dinner & weighs 1.38 kgs - a big Northern usually weighs about 850 grams.

    She can take care of herself as well & has several hundred acres to fly around. Makes a great 'guard-dog' as well. Ciao, james

    Thanks again for the caution. jj
     
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    Guzzi, this is a much better proposition that you've posted http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-10-sports-cruiser/64570 this model is wider in the hulls & a much better load carrying vessel, a sister ship to this was fitted with bridge deck cabin & some nice step extensions & came out a nice comfy boat
     
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    I've got all that but wouldn't buy it for that, I might like to sit it in the yard & charge rent for a few years to help pay my mortgage though;)
     
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    Corley epoxy coated

    Your right, of course. I think this boat (hull shell) will be bought by some dreamer and sit around in a boatyard for a few years till they run out of money or enthusiasm.
     
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    Hi Guzzi, long time no see. Working on the assumption that the smallest boat you can get away with is usually the most economical long term proposition.... The F1 is nice but the easy access double in the Gypsy pod might suit your partner better? If that Gypsy is sound, for 29K its gotta be a deal. I'd buy it and go sailing rather than spending money and above all time refitting some old hulk. No point in building unless you get a buzz out of it.
     
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    Sabahcat, I hate to say it but $18 is a bit high in our area right now. We,ve been paying our labour a lot less than that . You might need to import some workers, lots of good men needing jobs here. Rick
     
  14. guzzis3
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    jamez,

    how is the yellow boat coming along ? I'm afraid last year was one thing after another so lacked time for boating pursuits. I haven't even been sailing in a year, probably forgotten how. :)

    I'm not keen on ply right now, not for a boat that sits out on a mooring getting rained on and our terrible sun. Otherwise as you say the gypsy would be irresistible.

    waikikin:

    The opendeck 10 is probably a nice thing, but the eureka has a good name aswell.

    I don't think the catalacs were ever well thought of as a sailing boat ? anyone ?

    There was a prout 31 in aus recently, they were trying for 90, needed work. They aren't a bad thing for type but that money....too much..

    Anyway thank you all for your comments.
     

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    The Catalacs are more of a motor sailor to windward but decent offwind and well regarded for cruising. Chuck Kanter on a scale of 1-5 gave them as follows- motoring 4, docking 4, backing 4, sailing 2, windward 2, ease of tacking 2, tracking 3, visibility from helm 4, seakindly ride 3, convenient deck layout 4, interior layout 5, adequate storage 4. Not great sailing reviews but for those inclined to motor, a well thought out boat with a roomy layout.
     
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