ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

Horse is better than beef - just don't name them first.

 

Are you nuts?

 

joe barton did

 

That is real pollution. I don't know what can be done about it and I doubt a letter to the company will have an effect. A voice at city council (and with it the implied threat that it will be handled through legal channels)?

 

How does this thread discuss the influence on boating in general? Should boats have bigger air conditioners or bigger woodstoves? Will we have more manatees to avoid or will the starving masses eat them all when all the gasohol farms force the poor into starvation?

 

Well, it's largely my fault for brake-steering the thread to the right but I just feel that all of this political nonsense is connected. I think the gist is that Bos feels that warmer water will make bigger waves. That is why the waters of say, the Carribean, are so much rougher than the Southern Ocean, North Sea, and Bearing Sea.

 

So steering the debate to, ahem, starboard will keep the waves from beating on the beam ends of this discussion?

 

Its important to realize the source of the pollution so that the responsible parties can be made to clean up there mess, which is one large part of the reason the oil and gas industry is so hell bent on denial and agnotology. We might be able to beat this thing if only we can come to the realization its our own actions that caused the problem in the first place.

Gubment is always going to be the lying sacks they are
doesn't mater what you blame on who
they want your freedoms because they're afraid of us and that we might just pissed off enough to start something

My retirement plans are directly dependent on how much climate change can be expected. The more we acknowledge our fault the greater the chances we might actually mitigate the effects and the easier my personal retirement plans will be.

 

the southern ocean circles antartica and is wind driven

 

Something is wind driven.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081123222842.htm

As the above article shows, the current of the Antarctic Ocean is actually resistant to winds.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100427101234.htm

"In a paper published in Nature Geoscience, the researchers described the current -more than three kilometres below the Ocean's surface -- as an important pathway in a global network of ocean currents that influence climate patterns."

This article shows that climate responds to currents, not the opposite.

 

Or something:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22126

They are not a bad way to pass the time..

 

There is no mitigation, Bos. We have an entire world that wants to grow and develope like the West did. If the science of AGW were to, one day, be proven, then it will take something to make the others stop doing whatever they are doing that is causing it. That's right, war. We can stop putting out CO2. Do you think a nice letter to China is going to make them stop? India? Iran? Russia? Africa? The best case scenrio is that we force these places to remain poor for our benefit.

 

Actually, the best case scenario would be for everybody to learn to be affluent not by holding out the palm to Uncle Sam for lunch money. Teach the world capitalism and socialism will stop starving people to death. I mean, err, everyone can then afford a boat.