What Do We Think About Climate Change

Keep in mind most of us on the left are pretty happy with Obama. We may complain about the compromises that it's taken to get legislation through, but he has gotten a LOT of things done that have been on our to do list for a long time. While there may be a bit of grumbling about a primary challenge, it's not going to happen.

The next two years should be pretty interesting. I foresee the Rs remaining the party of NO, but also going through a bit of a civil war within their own ranks. The Tea Party movement will get discouraged when they realize the people they elected can't get anything done either.

I don't see the Health care law being repealed, either. The new provisions are already taking effect and if they repealed it now it would do some politically impolitic damage to people, especially seniors. Can you see the ads now? "Congressman <insert name here> voted to RAISE drug prices for seniors, what will he do to the rest of us?". Likewise, there were some deals made to get the insurance companies on board with the plan. If the Rs tried to repeal the individual mandate but keep the popular bits of the law they would be running up against a huge lobbying wall.

I'm also wondering if we're going to see another government shutdown in the next few months. You remember how well that worked out for the republicans last time. The Rs are also going to need to figure out how to keep their small but vocal bigoted minority from staining the entire brand. Having a bunch of significant players pull out of CPAC because the gay republicans were going to be there isn't helping their image.

The economy will continue to slowly creep back over the next two years, but it remains to be seen how much, and if the rate of change is rapid enough for anyone to notice.

 

You poor fool. At first I thought I didn't like you, but it is pity now. Of course there are some leftists that still like Obama - and they are dim bulbs, just as you. Step away from the Psilocybes, B'head.

 

not so much around here, maybe in your neck of the woods but Colorado voters are pretty dam disappointed. His handling of the economy has been pedestrian at best and irresponsible at worst, granted he got handed a back of ****, but borrowing our way out of debt he leaves us all in a far worse place than where we were two short years ago. The economy is teetering on the edge. Bernake was a whopping huge mistake.

He has caved in to the Republicans at nearly every turn. Shown no spine at all when it comes to either domestic or foriegn policy and is, to put it mildly, all rhetoric and no substance. The excuse for universal health care can best be summed up by the simple fact that he left 40+ million americans out in the cold and the rest paying into a system almost exactly like the unfunded mandate of car insurance, but gave comprehensive universal health care to 60+ million Iraqi's and Afghanistan's. what a crock.

And Gwod forbid a foriegn country get aggressive with us, anyone remember a guy named Chamberlain walking off an airplane waving a treaty in his hands. I also remember some pretty interesting campaign promises, stuff like every child who wants to go to college should be able to, and I'll get us out of these illegal wars of aggression

At which point I might mention I voted for the lying sack

He's basically reneged on just about every campaign trail moment in BS he threw at the American public and in the end its

you guessed it
Business as usual

except for a lack of
effective economic policy
effective domestic policy
effective foriegn policy
and a failure to produce a single success story when it comes to campaign rhetoric

in short
the man is incompetent
He might have learned how to BS his way in a college setting ( so did I ) but the real world is something different entirely, deal is a lot of the egomaniac professor types don't transition well to the real world. Hillary pegged his BS early on.

not sure how people in Washington are thinking but I do stay involved here in Colorado and folks are downright pissed off with him around here
I doubt he would carry the state again unless the Republicans do something completely stupid like front ole dimwits herself as the party nominee.

nope
Obummer is likely a one term president unless he gets off his *** and actually does something meaningful with his opportunity.

 

In one regard, I feel he has been perfectly successful with his campaign promises. He has fundamentally transformed America. He got us pretty much out of Iraq (well, on the schedual that was already happening). He did close Club Gitmo, didn't he? (Oh, no, I forgot, he just signed legislation to never allow Gitmo detainees to come into the US proper). His Cloward-Piven plan is well in place and successful beyond all imagination. He has disrespected our Judiciary in a most high-schoolish manner. He bows to foreign leaders as he apologizes to them for America being America, He paid off his voting constituancy, I might add, almost immediately! He has divided America along socio-economic lines like it has not been in my lifetime. He has brought urban chic (and mountain gorilla chick, ha!) to the Whitehouse. He has nailed more pictures of himself up in the Whitehouse than all other presidents combined (Why? Because every pres. before now has had the grace to let someone else do it later if warranted). He is the first president to get cracked in the lip playing ghettoball. He signed away advantage in a Russian treaty. He allowed gays to not be left alone in the military like they have been forever under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". And he's Fired up! http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/ofasplashflag/
He also got us paying and obligated to pay more for healthcare and encouraged untold thousands of potential doctors to switch fields of study to something that makes more sense in the coming Barack times - possibly government work (who knows?) He brought real meaning to the phrase "It's Bush's fault". He coerced democrats to vote for healthcare even though the American people had allready given it a "no!", thereby damaging the Democratic Party in such profound ways that it will likely take decades, if ever, to recover. One fifth of Americans get plenty of time to persue other interests under Barack.
Here's a black perspective (Over 90% of blacks favor him so one can only surmise that blacks are not yet critical of him) http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/11/25/barack-obama-black-men-112509/ Basically, it says there is the positive of "He has inspired us" and the negative of "He hasn't got us out of prison yet", "Get us jobs", "Make us mainstream America". That might take a little time considering that I, for one, pretty much forgot what racism was until Barack came along - now I routinely see, hear, "******", which only happened in rap videos for the last twenty years. (One thing that has struck me is how blacks fall for being used by the Democrats for their votes time after time only to suffer through more humiliation and broken promises, rather than go with the party that says we are all born equal and can succeed if we work hard enough. One has to admit that the Republican Party is the more color blind of the two)
Ahem... Cap and Trade to stifle US oil production and encourage imports. And he won the Nobel Peace Prize! (His number one accomplishment)

 

I think they could use audio of Hillary C and Nancy P to extract info in Guantanamo.

 

psilocybes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville

 

"...irresponsible at worst..."?

Criminal at worst.

 

i wonder which of marks rights have been taken away

i keep hearing about a lot of lost rights but not what they are

trying to give people a better life is not taking their rights away

otto bismark, that socialist, was all for health care

 

Rights? Freedoms? Yes, if I cared to think about it, there are problems.
The single biggest factor is, as proven here, California, Europe, the USSR, or anywhere else, spending other's money doesn't work. Spending more than you take in DEFINITELY doesn't work.
They are coming after the internet now, BTW.

 

under normal circumstances when inflation is low a deficit is a sign of a growing economy

and isn't systemic inflation low now?

 

Is inflation low? They,er not using the same math they used when Mr. Carter was pres. rick

 

oil and food are rising but it's not general inflation

 

wardd,
"can anybody tell me what money is for?

why does it exist?"...this has not been answered for you, but please spend the time to listen to all of this, he does go on rather slowly, but the info is very real, and needs to be addressed asap, if you expect anything left of the USA for your children to live in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Yf3FCZ5FY

 

until the inherent problems in our current economic system are addressed there is a built in boom and bust cycle

and if we don't also address the coming social and technological changes coming within a generation there will only be the haves and havenots and the usa will resemble the world of robo cop

 

Inflation is low as politicians and other people that don't understand inflation's serious implications define it. I define it differently and my definition is always spot on correct on this. You can get this as it is not complicated.
Forget, absolutely throw it out, erase from your mind M1, M2, etc.. Forget even "The overall general upward price movement of goods and services" or whatever similar definition the people who would have you confused and the people who are confused themselves talk about.
One can dink around with the money supply in a lot of different ways but long-term trends always comes back to one thing - how much money there is. Third world shitholes, without the insight to hire an economist or with evil intentions or with a person in control unwilling to listen to his economists (Nixon, for example was taught that stupid "price controls" can't work and he, for politics or ignorance, placed them anyway. Barack, Geitner, etc., who can figure what they smoked to come up with a spending and printing plan to get us out of a hole caused by...too much spending? Yes, it was a third-world shithole thing to do.) spend more money than they have, then print money to pay back debts. Sorry, while we're on Barack, keeping Kinko's working 24/7 for two years does not constitute a "jobs program".