Minimum Passagemaker/Cruiser

You are talking about coastal cruiser or a weekend boat. And easier than yacht shipping is to fly and get a boat from Moorings and that's not the point of this thread..
BR Teddy

 

A weekend boat with 1000 miles range ? You better do some additional research Teddy, yachts are not cargo ships and they are owned by real people. THIS IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. Teddy, Im sailing a yacht with 500 miles of fuel. We have several HUNDRED thousand miles under the keel and have sailed in many oceans. Im confident that Sabahcats boat could also do the same and it represents a very viable passagemaker.

 

You see? Thats why we call you Layman!

 

bless you,

nose clear now?.........

 

I guess I can agree with the large dinghy and possibly the non turboed engines.

King size bed at sea?
My additional crew for crossing on an air mattress?
Large Refrigeration? Maybe but on a minimal passagemaker?
Not much storage? Guess that is why I think monohull.

Have you made a passage?

 

No doubt about that.. and I'm not blaming you that marketing hype has confused the terms.. It's just a fact that an avarege yacht ain't a passagemaker or a cruiser. Instead it's only a yacht without adequate tankage or storage room and IMHO that's the biggest difference to a passage making one..

 

Thank you for your vote of confidence

Yes, fantastic things when having arrived at destination
And with an abundance of cushions/pillows against bulkheads, perfectly safe in a seaway + there is the narrow lounge that can be slept on next to internal helm if less comfort is your thing

It's a predominately 2 person boat
even if deciding to take on extras for a longer passage thay can manage fine with the bedding arrangements as they are for several days and air mattresses are surprisingly comfortable, weigh nothing, don't absorb water and are easily put away when not in use,
I have delivered other vessels with less than that as in reality, there are always 1 if not 2 awake leaving 2 down sleeping.

I call large about 300 of fridge and 100 of freezer
Most yachts have about 1/3rd of that or less, so yes, large.
Are you trying to tell me that you can afford the fuel bill to go on long passages, but not refrigeration?

I de-clutter when I go on a vessel
I dont need nor want shelves shelves and more shelves plus endless lockers to store "stuff"

You'll have to be more specific.

Certain posters on these threads dont seem to think 1000nm ocean passages count as passages.

I do, so yes, I would say I have made a passage, on several different styles of vessel both mono and multi, both sail and powered.

How about yourself?

 

AAAhhhh, much better



No more feeding the trolls.

 

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That's called island hopping
Nobody's denying anyone to do that, but that's the best some boats can do..

 

Pretty tough to get that many sailing miles in a lifetime let alone not get spanked by the sea. Your posts show a clear lack of understanding the human-boat-weather-luck system called seaworthiness.

There is a fairly clear delineation in these forums between those who have been spanked by the sea and those that have not. What those two groups see as important is clearly two schools of thought. When you are days from shore the sea does not have to spank very hard to really wake up the sensiblites. There doesn't seem to be a way to pass that knowledge on in forums. I guess you have to experience it yourself. To bad as the sea is a very torturous teacher.

Trying to pass that information on is seen as negative, nanny, overbearing, dogmatic, expensive tastes and closed minded to those without that inate knowledge. I try to keep the name calling out of it but perhaps that will begin to wane by 6000 posts.

 

Tomato
Tomato

You call it island hopping
Others call it a passage
I am in the latter group obviously and am fine with that.
Especially if I can get out there and do it for several hundreds of thousand of dollars less than if I waited to buy a ship

 

That's pretty funny but a little harsh.

 

Pierre...Im a yacht captain, for 40 years. All oceans. A lite year is 10,000 miles a heavy year 25,000 miles. We recently finished a five and a half month cruise. I consider these events to be passages. While on these passages I observe many people, on many different types of boats, with many different budgets and each with their own solution to passage making. . I suggest to you that you get back on topic and tell us your observations concerning your observations while at sea. .

 

Yeah I would call 300 cubic feet of frig a lot. Refrigeration takes a lot of energy and is fine for a dock queen or a very comfortable passagemaker but we are talking minimal passagemaker here. That means achored out for long periods of time and budget means minimal energy usage most of the time, same as a snailboat.

I guess 300 cubic feet of freezer space would hold all the food stuffs you need for an entire trip. Ha Ha, I assume you mean liters but?

I think of a passage in terms of time instead of distance. I think of a passage as anything over 4 days. Yes I have made passages but I got trashed early on in my training and found that I am susseptible to fatigue. Fear, sickness and fatigue together is a real eye opener. I do not have hundreds of thousands of miles experience at sea. Sorry.

 

We call ourselves Master, Mr. Pierzga, never Captain. Only landlubbers do that, go figure.....
And after about the same time at sea as I have under the belt, sure somebody would have told you that it is a clear Faux Pas. No Dude, sorry, you never went to sea, that is obvious in every post, in every statement you dish out here, you are a liar.

Being sure you doubt my expertise too, let me point to a comment made recently by one of our NA´s who went to sea under my command:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/wo...ywood-carvel-planking-34539-3.html#post398091
on a icecold and windy trip in a uncomfortable small, 50 years old boat with no navigational equipment at all. Just one chart, and me of course.