Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

You shouldn't need to import any woods into Australia. Try "Marime Timbers" in Seaforth Victoria. 10 Rutherford Rd. Vic 3198 Tel: 9775 0006
www.marinetimbers.com.au Martin Johnson. Tell him I referred you.

 

hi all,
has any one ever heard of...... replacing the main bulkhead with 3 or 4 layers of 20mm Coretech balsa???
i want to replace the alloy tubes in the hull and the beams, i like the green b24 beams, im thinking of doing the same but still having it demountable.......and making it 24 feet wide

 

Waltermitty

VAT is only charged on items coming into the UK - items sent to Australia/America/Canada from the UK would be zero rated ie VAT deducted.

Some of the ply being sold as Marine ply is rubbish so be carefull - I recently bought a sheet of 'so called' Marine ply to try from Ebay UK and had to send it back when it arrived - it had a paper thin laminate on each side and a thick wood core (looked identical to domestic ply) with no BS marks, I would suggest you get a sample first before you buy........
hope this helps.

 

[Quote}has any one ever heard of...... replacing the main bulkhead with 3 or 4 layers of 20mm Coretech balsa???[Quote}

Why would you want to do that?
Three major stresses pass thru that bulkhead, it needs to be very strong. The weight penalty there is not significant.

Balsa core laminates are great when used in wooden aircraft (as in the De Haviland "Mosquito") but are bad news in boatbuilding.
Experience has shown that eventually the balsa becomes waterlogged and rots.

 

Thanks OS7.Rang the number and your contact there has sold the business.The lady I spoke to was very helpful and gave me their prices for Pacific Maple and Hoop Pine.Slightly dearer than Boat Craft.
Thanks John Jolly.You are right ,it is difficult to ensure quality when you buy on line and especially when the object has to come from over seas.
Re.al. pipe for beams and mast,Alcoa no longer supply these.Bob from Alcoa wasnt sure who could supply.Perhaps mast section with the longer dimension
vertical.Or a heavier section laid on it's side ,using the sail track for attaching wing tramps.

 

Progress

Its cold wet and windy here in the UK so while I am waiting for my ply to be delivered I am busy getting the s/steel sorted for the main hull which I will build first, I am using 316 threaded rodding for the keel box which I will cut to length and 316 40mm flat strip which supports the crossbeam braces, I will also use 9mm ply for bulkheads/frames 4 and 4A.
I have also made enquiries about glazing for the Mk 2 cabin as I wish to keep the Crowther design basically unchanged as it is pure seventies ( just like a classic 70's sports car I own), I have drawn up templates for the cabin glazing with nice semetrical rounded corners pritty much as attached picture, and am using 5mm dark tint acrylic perspex which I will cut to size, it comes in all manner of sizes and colours and is extremly strong and light, and best of all it is very reasonably priced.......

 

Yes, and that pic really shows what an attractive shape the B24 is.

I am wondering why you would want black windows though. Clear windows really lighten up the cabin, especially in dull weather.
I actually put sliding curtains in mine,--- mainly for privacy when dockside.

 

OS7
The glazing is not black- its dark tinted.....my experience with a previous boat we owned with dark tinted glazing was that we never drew the curtains anyway....! once the lights are out you can not see inside the boat.....
Its just a matter of choice at the end of the day.

 

Wnidow glazing

OS7 - I have to correct myself that previous boat I owned had light tinted glazing not dark as I stated It was may years ago and I have had a few more boats since, it was a Etap 23 which comes out the factory in tinted glass, it gave a very nice warm feeling inside the boat and we never had any 'light' issues - so the Buc will have light tinted glass...

 

LOL.
Good ONYA John.

 

First look

I have built several cars and a few other items in my life. I have wanted to sail for quite some time and after I retired finally took a few lessons. I came real close to buying a trihull but just couldn't justify the price. I've been looking on these webpages and a few others and have become very interested. We built fiberglass boats here on the river when growing up so little glass knowledge is here. I understand these boats are ply built but what I can't seem to find out is some general info as far as weight, beam ect on the Buc 24. How stable or flat does the boat sail, wife hates high heel angles.

In reality if someone had never built a plywood sailboat about how long would it take to build in hours. What about cost? I understand it's like anything else, you can spend a nickle or a few dollars on anything but just to initially build the 24 as the plans have it layed out what would be the a good guess on cost in the US.

Yes I'm looking for my next project.

 

I was going to make Capricorn demountable but was just to lazy in the end plus we leave boats in the water around here.

making it wider would mean you might have to increase the strength of the beams as the loads go up. That would increase the weight of the boat which again increases the loads, things will start breaking...

being wider it would be faster at the top speed as more righting moment but the extra weight would slow it down in the light airs in which this design kicks arse.

 

Newbies to boatbuilding (and lots of not-so-newbies--- including me) can benefit from entering this website and reading the lot, from A to Z.
http://www.glen-l.com/resources/glossary.html

 

Wikipedia.org is well up to speed on most nautical definitions and just about anything else you care to name. Try Dolphin striker & Fractional rig.