What Do We Think About Climate Change

"A black man once made me an honorary brother because he knew my heart"?!?!?!? How did he do that? Did he give you a special tattoo on your heiny and teach you the secret handshake?

Go back and read the posts, Hoyte. I didn't say a damn word about the modern South being racist. You started carrying on about how Democrats are the racist ones, not the Republicans...and I gave you enough history to point out how ridiculous it was to make such claims about today's Democrats and Republicans, and try to base those claims on history.

 

No. He stood there, face to face with me shook my hand and said man to man that he personally made me an honorary brother because we made a brotherly connection on a spiritual level.

 

In case you hadn't noticed, I haven't been initiated anything on the subject of race. I've only talked about it in direct response to racist crap that others have posted--like the article about Raines, that mentioned his race more times than what he's supposedly guilty of.

 

Please keep in mind that there is NO 'special' condemnation of ************* in the Judeo-Christian tradition. You can search for it in the bible or Torah all you want, but you'd be wasting your time as it's just not there. Not that those traditions do not condemn it, it's just that the same passages that condemn it also in the same breath condemn premarital sex with the same venom as *************. Now you could make a better case that the J-C traditions does offer an especially harsh condemnation for extramarital sex, that is adultery, but not for *************; that's treated just like any type of 'fornication'. So when you see that nice young couple 'shacking up' and think "Sweet!" or see people headed to bars to get laid, remember that the god of the Christians and Jews apparently hates that as much he hates gay folks doing what they do. How do we know? Cuz the Bible tells me so

(offered for perspective)

Jimbo

 

Yeah...I've known people who carry on like that, too. Bless them; they can really make you feel good about yourself. I don't take them too seriously though, and I certainly don't consider them to be spokesmen for an entire race.

 

Forget, for the purposes of this discussion, God. My problem is that they encourage it and promote it while it is, IMO, a mistake. Tolerance is one thing, but I find them to often be LEAST tolerant. Leftists, liberals, if you will, are certainly less tolerant of other's views. As an example, Tea Party protests have consistantly been the most peaceful protests that I have seen...yet Troy, and liberal media, and Bill Clinton can find meanness in a couple of attendees (probable plants in many cases), and brand the whole thing "racist" or "evil". The left is not tolerant and I am becoming intolerant of the left.

 

I didn't say the entire race felt that way. I am sure Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton would hate me. They are not fit to lick that man's boots, however.

 

I venture a guess, in fact, that Al Sharpton is the least respected public figure in America - Even the people he comes to help roll their eyes! He showed up talking "civil rights" at the protests in Arizona and they may as well kiss their cause goodbye.

 

I am aware of the liberal Robin Hood mentality that created the financial problems that came to a head last year.
I was talking about the gigantic waste of money that alleged human caused global warming has created in the last 10 years or so.
Sadly as I mentioned before it will be the genuine cases of pollution and conservation that will be basketed TOGETHER with human caused global warming when it gets finally and permanently buried by the mountain of evidence against it and when the politicians realise that the number of eggs in their face becomes too much.

 

My point was solely that they always find a way to weasle out of responsibility. (and get a jab in at someone I loathe)

 

Jimbo, not that I am particularly interested in the debate of ************* and it's condemnation in the bible but such is rather clear by the destruction of Sodoma and Gomorra. I thought that to be a well known story. Not that it matters much though, but it has guided generations of Christians and Jews throughout the centuries in that condemnation.

 

Another story on the business side of AGW and who stands to profit from a non-existent crisis............

http://www.fcpp.org/publication.php/3274

 

Later Bible passages make it clear that the acts performed by those people were no less detestable to god than fornication of other types.

Jimbo

 

Some doomsday predictions from Earth Day 1970, pay close attention to the last one................


Earth Day Predictions 1970
"We have about five more years at the outside to do something."



-- Kenneth Watt, ecologist



"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind."



-- George Wald, Harvard Biologist



"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation."



-- Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist



"Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction."



-- New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day



"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."



-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist



"By...[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s."



-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist



"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation."



-- Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day



"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions....By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of

Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine."



-- Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University



"Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support...the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution...by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half...."



-- Life Magazine, January 1970



"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable."



-- Kenneth Watt, Ecologist



"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone."



-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist



"We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones."



-- Martin Litton, Sierra Club director



"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate...that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, `I am very sorry, there isn't any.'"



-- Kenneth Watt, Ecologist



"Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct."



-- Sen. Gaylord Nelson



"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age."



-- Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

 

And there are passages in the Bible which make it clear the sinfulness of the two cities went far beyond *************.

For example, in Ezekiel:

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.