Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

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  1. masalai
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    The Lloyd's Prayer

    Our Chairman, who art at Goldman
    Blankfein be thy name
    The rally's come
    God's work be done
    On earth as there's no fear of correction
    Give us our daily gains...

    Poor Goldman Sachs. Everyone is on its case. Criticizing. Carping. Jealous. Envious.

    So, today we rise in defense of the Wall Street giant. Yes, the Goldmen may be shysters. But they are honest shysters...
     
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    Provide perhaps the same epitaph for your own countrymen, I wouldn't.

    Ignorance is the mortar of a house built by fools.
     
  5. masalai
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    TTT,
    You have discovered:?: All politicians are from the bottom of the tree of life - - - one step above amoeba... My motto for politicians is to have NO EXPECTATIONS... Then you won't be disappointed... Be prepared to instigate lots of noise to keep them on the right track (they seem to prefer the path of least resistance)...
     
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    bntii,
    Think carefully of what is written, and it goes for nearly ALL wars - 'seemed the right thing to do at the time', would not be far off the consensus of many, long, long after from returning from a conflict... As you age you too may come to a view, that is something similar, when the actual pain of lost comrades and injuries may be less confronting in the rest of a life...
     
  7. Senad
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    ANd you expect me to call you names because? Oh, because you have already taken that "privilege" into your hands and expect me to be just as primitive and rude to you.


    I do not know where to start laughing at your "civilised country education" my dear sauerkraut. You are just as ignorant as your friend mark. And just as free to insult someone just because you think you can...You do not deserve to be pointed into the right direction because you would not see one even if shown, but here are some details for those holes in your "civilised country education". Of which you have destroyed every word and every reference of each word to yourself so skillfully I can only clap my hands in approval.

    First your "albanian" name is merely a translation of the real name of the region. It is not actual name if only because the word "kosovo" is genitive form of the slavic word "kos" which means "blackbird". "Kosovo" means "blackbird's", and "polje" means "field".

    The fact that albanians call it "Kosovë" CLEARLY shows WHO was the first to give it the name and who usurped it.

    Further to your ignorant comments, Albanians are not Illirians. Had you ever heard about genetic analysis, you would have heard that Albanians are genetically a part of the Calabrian native population that moved into what you know as Albania in Roman times. Hence the name ALBAnia - the land of the dawn. Or the land from where the dawn comes, if you prefer more poetic translation. Alba means dawn in latin. Illyrians have always lived up the coast all the way to the Velebit mountain northwest of city Zadar, and there are some traces even further north. Illirians dissappeared as people in Montenegro when the last queen (what was her name genius? Teuta you galic head.) lost her battles against the Romans and hid, according to the legend, some gold and silver in a cave near Herceg-Novi. They have never left a single trace in Albania. There are theories, but no evidence that Illirians have ever lived further down the south.

    Feel dumb yet? Good, but I am not done with you, my friendly sauerkraut. More of your ignorance:
    Well first, professor, it is Byzant, not Byzanz as you repeatedly write...Then, bulgarian "regentship"...where on earth have you heard that nonsense. Bulgaria was only ever a big country under Samuilo, and that was a short-lived "empire. VERY short. In the meantime, Serbian kingdom and empire lasted long before and after Samuilo.

    Balkan Dardania (there are many Dardanias) was in the area ABOVE the Kosovo Polje, you turd. Almost central Serbia. Nothing to do with Kosovo. Calling you ignorant is not an insult. It is merely a statement of your extremely low knowledge levels which you so arrogantly display to the world here.

    My dear friend...this is from wikipedia article written by some fanatic albanian. The historical chronicles from even Turkish sources confirm that the "christian" forces included 30 000 Serbs, 10 000 Croats, a few (5 to 7 000) Bosnian Serbs and there were symbolical presences by Hungarians and Poles. Albanians were not a nation nor a country and those few peasants, descendants from Calabrian settlers (calabrian language today is almost identical to albanian. and there are no albanian settlers in Calabria) did not take part in the war. Some may have ended up as soldiers in Serbian army, as Serbian kingdom was stretching all the way to the Adriatic back then.

    And the fact is that it took Turks 100 years to recover from the battle and try to re-conquer the part of "christian" Europe.

    I'll also draw your attention to the genetical studies done on the territory of Yugoslav republics in the past few years. Every single one had confirmed that today's "Albanians" are a mixture of Calabrian descendants, Slavs and a few and far in between Illyrians. On the other hand the native gene of the Balkans, the I gene (Illyrian gene) is predominantly found among the Serbs, the Bosnians (mixture of Serbs and Croats), the Croats and Macedonians. The percentage of Illyrian genes are from 33% to 75%.

    So you can scream your lies to heavens, but the science is telling us that the only liar here is you.

    By the way, albanians have never had their state until the end of the WWII. And 90% of them have always lived near the sea because they came by the sea. They came to Kosovo Polje when Turks took them to work in the gold, copper and coal mines in 16th century. Well documented in turkish books of the time. So go and read before you post your ignorance again. Because Serbs and Croats are the real Illyrians,not your albos. Genetical research has confirmed that. Would you like some links to the research?

    Apologies to other members, but this apex (I'd delete the "x". it's not appropriate) saurekraut asked for a lesson in history. I will not continue this debate even if he responds with more of his schizofrenic "history" as it does not belong into the theme of the thread.
     
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    We had a major Internet outage in out region some 2000 services not working in 15 exchanges (the phones were OK just broadband was stuffed) - - heard on the grapevine that Telstra may loose control of the "landlines" - - reverting back to Government ownership (Thank Goodness)... In the past 5 properties, we have paid for the telephone link to a "concentrator" exchange and the biggest part (outside the house was "given" to Telstra... This issue of access and how much will be resolved by such a sensible move as the landlines are part of community infrastructure as is water reticulation & sewerage.... Someone is bound to "howl down" this but I feel for Australia is GOOD as there are HUGE distances to consider...

    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dorsch/2009/1119.html a very interesting perspective but..... (right at the end is an image mark will appreciate:D)
    http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/bloom/2009/1119.html "“Pumping the US economy with money is like pumping a geriatric full of ******. We should not lose sight of the fact that, at the end of the day, a geriatric on ****** is still a geriatric.”"
    http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/casey/2009/1119.html " What If They Stop Buying Our Debt?" - - Catastrophy:?:
     
  9. apex1

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    Senad
    falemin dherit shume, but
    Nono Srbsk, not as rude, you have proven already you are better in that discipline, and especially being primitive too!

    >>>you should return back to school (this time in a civilized country) and learn history!<<<
    Not what your leaders liked to tell you!

    You are wrong in almost every single case!
    And I do´nt use wiki nonsense....I get my knowledge at the places I´m talking. From people who know, not "believe" what happened.

    More than 15.000 Albanian people live in Calabria since centuries...and they came from Albania.
    Albanian ARE of Illyrian roots, or at least assimilated the Illyrian remainders and language.
    Albanian language is one of the five "language forming" languages in Europe, and not related to any other. Yes I speak Albanian (and some others).

    Bulgarian leaders had the power centuries before the first Serbian clan chief fell from his tree.

    Byzanz is Byzanz in Byzanz, where I am at present..........
    of course some premature societies, like the serbian, spell it different...

    for the rest: stay dumb, ignorant, fanatic and agressive, thats old tradition in your country.......
     
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    Mas,
    "To quote our Pauline Pantsdown, and her namesake, Ms Pauline Hanson, a good partner for mark & politician of some notoriety in Australia, "Please Explain"...

    you obviously copy and paste all the media has to say....have you EVER read directly what she had to say, not what she was "quoted" as saying......I think you may be surprised at just how badly she was treated...the two parties running this country CANNOT allow anyone speaking the truth to get into power...read some of her work directly mate before you quote like a parrot...it makes you look like a gala.
     
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    Mas,

    You love wacking off at the USA because you are loosing money on your Pandas and other gold as Mark describes your "investments"....you say that the USArians are a bunch of dead heads, yet what about Australians....

    ...do you really think this is acceptable....

    Subject: From - Ross Greenwood of Money News (I haven't checked the sums but
    the drift is there)


    Right now the Federal Government is at pains to tell everyone –
    including us the mug-punters to the International Monetary Fund that it
    will not exceed its own, self-imposed, borrowing limits. How much? $200
    billion.

    And here's a worry. If you work in a bank's money market operation; or if
    you are a politician; the millions turn into billions and it rolls off the
    tip of the tongue a bit too easily.

    But every dollar that is borrowed, some time, has to be repaid. By you,
    by me and by the rest of the country.

    Just after 5 o'clock tonight I did a bit of maths for Jason Morrison.
    But it's so staggering its worth repeating now. First though ... here's
    what Chairman Rudd has been saying about - what he calls - these
    temporary borrowings. Remember those words ... temporary deficit . but
    the total Government debt could end up around $200 billion.

    So here's a very basic calculation ... I used a home loan calculator to
    work it out .... it's that simple.

    $200 billion is $200,000 million. The current 10 year Government bond
    rate is 4.67 per cent. I worked the loan out over a period of 20 years.

    Now here's where it gets scary ... really scary.

    The repayments on $200 billion come to more than one and a quarter
    billion dollars - every month - for 20 years. It works out we - as
    taxpayers - will be repaying $15.4 billion in interest and principal
    every year .... $733 for every man woman and child - every year.

    The total interest bill over the 20 years is - get this - $108 billion.
    And remember, this is a Government that just 18 months ago had NO debt ..

    NO debt. In fact it had enough money to create the Future Fund to pay
    the future liabilities of public servants' superannuation ... and it had
    enough to stick $20 billion into the Building Australia Fund last year

    ....
     
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    Hardly relevant when you consider what has happened globally during those 18 months.

    While the interest rate on those borrowings is a real worry , it`s rather unfair to make reference to the tired old " no debt "spiel.

    You sound like Shrek.....( Joe Hockey )
     
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    Geez apex, what is wrong with yhou now? retards infection spreading? Why do you people have to spit your venom by insulting others?

    You must be Albanian...

    In any way how about refraining from personal attacks? Or are you too "civilised" to be that strong?
     
  14. Landlubber
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    "Hardly relevant "..............well I personally see it different mate, to me, having no debt is far more important that filling the coffers of the pathetic banks here.....but then again, I have no money worries....I have no money!
     
  15. Boston

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    real question is do you have any debt


    Im sitting on my ars again looking to begin my next project. Just some little stuff going on at the moment.

    the real J P Morgan way back in the crash of 1907 was asked to come in and look at the situation and asked what he thought
    he looked over some books
    decided who was failing
    and let them fail

    yes they threw money at some to prevent a run and call situation but thats not what was happening in 2008~9
    in this case it was derivatives off high risk mortgages

    I say starting with Reorge and hopefully ending with Obummer we got screwed and now unless they restructure the money
    we're all going to be paying for a long time to come

    B
     

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