22 - 24 trimaran

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by waynemarlow, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. oldsailor7
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    Anyone got any more information on the Seacart 30. ?
     
  2. basildog
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    Oldsailor
    Try a search on Google there is loads of info available. I know I had a quote that equated to around $300.000 Australian if I remember correctly. That was with all the goodies. Sounded fairly expensive to me!
    Tony
     
  3. oldsailor7
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    $300,000.00 :eek:
    Judging by the way the AUD has headed for the basement I can believe that. :(
     
  4. basildog
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    I see them advertised on the Sailing Anarchy web site for US$198000.00 Don't know what equipment specs that gets you.
     
  5. oldsailor7
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    I was particularly interested in Mike Waters "Small Trimaran Folding Systems, parts 1 & 2".
    He covers the subject exceptionally well---but he missed out on one other simple system.

    My second Trimaran was a Piver "Nugget" launched in July 1964.
    It had solid wooden crossarms with no water stays.
    The crossarms were broken by a join just outside the cabin sides.
    This join was bridged by galvanized metal hinges which allowed the outriggers to be folded up onto the cabin roof.
    This Tri was easily hauled out on a standard trailer, the hinge bolts unfastened and the floats hinged up on to the cabin top with little effort. My wife and I did it many times over the four years we sailed the boat.
    The only drawback(and it was only a little one) was that the tri had to be lashed securely to the trailer due to the weight of the outrigger hulls being so high up on the roof. We never had a problem with that and I look back to those four years as a particularly happy and trouble free time.
    Modern folding systems are easy to use---but are complex, heavy and expensive by comparison.
     
  6. tatoski
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    Guys,

    Do you have pictures of the Bucc 24 on a trailer with amas demounted ready for travel? I wanted to see how this is trailered around. Thanks.

    Tatoski
     
  7. bruceb
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    trailer ready

    I have my cover on but I will post some more pics in a couple of days with out it. I have a system that I can do by myself, but a helper is nice and makes it go more quickly. You can see the fender below the port float. Bruce
     

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    Bruceb,

    Thanks. I imagine the crossarms are demountable (4 pcs?) and slides into sockets on the vaka and the ends are mounted to the amas via clamps? Am I correct? thank you

    Tatoski
     
  9. bruceb
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    de-mountable

    Tatoski, Yes , lets switch to the buccaneer 24 thread, and I will post some pics as soon as I have a chance to stop by my boat. Bruce
     
  10. Samnz
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    what about this?

    Its loosely based on the Bucc 24 but with an updated cockpit and hull lines. Hard chine from 4mm ply the materials to build it are very very cheap, and very quick to build. The designer, Shayne Young says the vpp is quicker than a F9R...

    4mm ply is lighter than foam and glass (apparantly) so is a fairly good option for this sized boat if carbon is out of the price range.

    I am very tempted to build the floats for my boat...
     

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  11. waynemarlow
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    I reckon it would be quite a good boat, chines are something that I haven't discounted, but man would it be an ugly duckling:eek:
     
  12. Chris Ostlind

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    More smoothy looking

    I don't dislike that design approach, but I do prefer it when a plywood boat design does make an effort to create something more like smooth surfaces. Something like the drawings shown below is more along the lines of what I'd go for. Yes, there's a bit more work involved in the build.

    I also prefer it when the amas have a bit more height, which gets the boat up a bit off the water for a drier ride. Personal preferences, to be sure.

    This is a 16' LOA solo sport cruiser I'm doing right now for a guy who lives near me. I've been having a lot of fun working to his design brief and I like what is showing-up as a result.
     

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  13. boat fan
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    Neat boat Chris....:)

    How much can it carry ?

    How much sail area ?
     
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  14. Chris Ostlind

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    Thanks.

    Displacement is 730 lbs. calculated against one 200 lb. guy, his personal camping gear, food, fluids, 2hp outboard, small can of gas and a fudge factor. It's a light boat in 4mm ply with glass/epoxy skins. I see the boat as a waterborne version of a lightweight hiking adventure.

    Sail area is 159 sq. ft. upwind with a 130 ft. screacher. Basically a modestly hotrodded Hobie 14 rig. Not looking for blistering, just spirited and easily controllable. It could go more nuclear if someone was looking to get that, but the base boat is more sedate. I like to use rigs from the thousands of ignored beach cats around the world. They're plentiful, can be had for little more than a smooth discussion sometimes and replacement sails are easy to come by, even when brand new.

    By the way... that Avatar photo of yours just rocks. I really like kids, so that little dude's face is a real winner in my book.
     

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  15. tatoski
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    Still looking for a 22-24 ft trimaran

    I am still looking for a 22-24 ft trimaran to build preferably of plywood and epoxy construction, plank on frame or stitch and glue. I am seriously considering the B24 but I am still searching the net for other plywood trimarans. Saw this on the net, K 24 t, a Bill Kritoffersen design.

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    Anybody who has knowledge of this boat? Any input will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

    Tatoski
     
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