4 Meter mono foiler project

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by wind_apparent, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. bistros

    bistros Previous Member

    I've always found ready, aim, fire is faster than ready, fire, aim.

    Thinking time always reduces execution time.
     
  2. wind_apparent
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    Since I wrote last I have cut out my Kinkos stuff, traced the Hull mould decking and sheeting, cut a pile of ply strips that very from 1/2'' to 4'' to mount on areas that have deep bends. I also mounted the Kinko's prints for the deck mould stanchions and have them rough cut. So things are progressing. I'm really excited to get back to work monday so I can start skinning stuff. I'll post some pics of that when I have some, right now it just looks like a boat skeleton with a bunch of funny shaped ply pieces piled on it.
     

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    So I started to mount skin today, My friend Murray picked me up some 16mm x 5/8'' upholstery staples so I was able to start gluing and stapling some plywood (thanks Murr), got signed off on our big Altandorf saw last week as well, so no more bugging people to do my dirty work. I borrowed a line bleeder from my buddy Cliff so that I could adjust how deep my staples went, (wanted the crowns exposed so they would be easy to extract) but found that it was easier to just turn off the compressor and bleed the tank till the pressure was about right, a little stapler doesn't seem to run through much air. Made some good progress, hope to do more tomorrow. The plywood has some slight waves in it, so I see some fairing in my future, but all in all I think its turning out pretty good.
     

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  4. Paul B

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    Some people have used plastic strapping material (like people use to hold big, heavy corrgate boxes closed) under each staple to allow the staples to be pulled out easily after the glue sets. May not work for you, but thought I would mention it.
     
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    Damn, I have thousands of feet of that stuff, didn't even think of it. Thanks for the tip, I'll experiment with it a little tomorrow. It would work good for keeping me lined up as well, because I have missed a couple times.
     
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    So mounted the big piece of ply for the bottom today, its definitely the easy way to do it. 1/2 of the bottom done in one foul swoop. Also did the side strips in the stern. Looking very boaty as of late. Tomorrow I want to do all the stripping for the aft bottom area. If I can I would love to get to the bow as well. We'll see what happens. I also tried the nylon strapping idea for the staples, it worked for staples going the cross grain of the strap, unfortunately since I used 1/2'' Mdf for my stanchions, all my staples are put in the long grain, so the strapping just splits right around them when pulled.
     

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  7. Paul B

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    Why can't you run the strapping at 90 degrees to the orientation that splits it? The straps would then look like "waterlines". Should still work.
     
  8. wind_apparent
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    I could, and I did try it that way a little bit, but it ended up being about the same amount of "pain in the ***" setting up the strapping and keeping it in place as I stapled as it was to just leave the crowns exposed and pull them out the old fashion way. I'm sure I will find a situation where I will use this technique, it's just not for the panels I've been doing lately.
     
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    stern strips.JPG

    I mounted the stern strips, it's a combination of 1'' and 3/4'' strips, It turned out well. I did end up with a couple of extra low spots, but I'll easily be able to bog and fair them out (I guess these little "surprises" are to be expected, I have never built a plywood strip mould before, so, all part of the experience....)

    bow piece.JPG

    I finally got around to adding the bow piece. I needed to get this on before I could start the bow stripping. (for obvious reasons)

    bow strips.JPG

    Here is the bow stripping in progress, I couldn't get it done because I ran out of time and strips. Can't cut any till Monday so I guess I'll have to go back to working on the Deck mould a little bit at home over the weekend. I used three levels of stripping on the bow area. It starts with wide 1'' strips, than 3/4'' in level two, and finally 1/2'' strips for the tight curve of the bow.

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    Here is a closeup of the 1'' stripping. I'm trying to find the balance between enough/to many staples. I'm still not very good at that, I tend to just start shooting and see what I have when the dust settles (I'm starting to get blisters and sore wrists).

    overall boat 10_30 .JPG

    And this is what the mould looks like as of now, I trimmed up the overhanging strips on the stern and sanded the bumps out a little to see what its going to look like, i think its pretty good. Not bad for a rookie, No?

    (for bigger pictures visit the blog)
     
  10. yachtyakka
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    Your progress is fun to watch.

    The R Class is up
     

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    Thanks, I'm getting pretty hooked on building boats, think I'm going to keep doing it for a long time......
    I saw that on SA, I'm a little jealous, but hope to be joining them before to long. (then we can all sport our ultra hip sailing helmets ;) )
     
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    This is the end............For now

    I'm going to stop updating this thread (unless there is some kind of public outcry, which I doubt.) Its time I could spend building and has served it purpose, which was to help me solidify the ideas for this project, and to get the technical help I would need to get it rolling. The thread has gotten pretty stale over the last couple months becoming mostly a secondary home for my Blog entries. By now most people that are interested know where my blog is. I will still be posting there as much as possible (don't be afraid to comment). Thanks to anyone who provided input or inspiration. I will still be posting on Designforums but on a "need to know something" basis. See you around...........( I might revive this thread at some later date, but probably not until I have some proof of concept pics).

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    I just got a new Gadget for the blog that makes it possible to sign up for e-mail updates. So if your one of the People who have been following this project, just sign up and all updates get sent to your e-mail inbox.

    http://sr-71monofoilerproject.blogspot.com/
     
  14. yachtyakka
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    yachtyakka Junior Member

    whats the latest with this project?
     

  15. bistros

    bistros Previous Member

    Go to Sam's build blog

    He got tired of the hype here.
     
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