Chinese Boatbuilders??

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by sandersc, Apr 9, 2008.

  1. Butch .H
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    I wonder how many chickens I could fit in the boat:D
     
  2. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    i would think they would help on the flotation,,, they are water proof hehe :D
     
  3. Butch .H
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    Plucking good idea that
     
  4. jusembo
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    Interesting case for anthropologist

    James don't waist time with these under-developed brains forget them for a while. You're too kind (or too naive) to believe some professionals will joint this thread, maybe some psychiatrist interested in brain decadency but nobody from boat business ... 10 years later, after having completely destroyed their economy, they will come to your boatyard in China and beg for a job. I would never imagine such peoples exist in "developed" country and especially in such field as boat; in Europe we still believe boat is for an educated elite but when i see what's append across the Ocean i'm really chocked.
    I wonder if they speak as they write, should send anthropologist.
     
  5. Butch .H
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    Hey David long time whats new? where is that boat of yours?You still building boats or just furniture?
     
  6. the1much
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    thats funny comming from a country that would be eating rice and urchin eggs if it wasnt for "other countries" hahahaha ,, maybe you need to be shown the #'s on your exports,,, and be shown in the history books what it was like there BEFORE we were so generous to buy ya cheap crap,,,hahahaha,,, see ANOTHER dreamer,,, 1 that doesnt realize that without our money,, they'd still be in the rice patties.hahahahaha dumbasses
     
  7. genuinemarine
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    Should I address you Mr No 1 instead of the1much? You like 1 better than me.

    Seems we are not in the same page as what we are talking and compare is about builidng boats in China. Where is your homework about that?

    Hinckley, Morris are good boats but I like Nordhavn, Selene better as they are very good ocean-going quality trawlres. They are being built in China. We work very closely with Selene!

    My best best is that you know nothing about boatbuilding in China.
     
  8. the1much
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    theres a reason for that isnt there??? my boats travel the world, and are KNOWN WORLD WIDE. how well is yours known?, and how many boats do you sell in a year?,, theres a REASON your #'s are so low, and mine are so high.
    and like i said in the very beginning,, the OP asked did we know any good builders in china ,, they were answered,, and because you didnt like the answers, you decided to get personal,,,,, they got our opinion,, like was asked,,, so again,,, your homework needs to look at #'s ,, not your thoughts,, and why did we go to #'s ,,, because YOU got personal. SO,, let the #'s do the talking. and like i have ALWAYS said,,, you may be the best there is,,, but having a boat built in a country that dont give a crap or will do ANYTHING about you (per say) taking the $ and running ,, is 1 of the dumbest things someone could do.
     
  9. genuinemarine
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    Talking with you really makes me feeling younger and younger. Are you too old to remember what we are talking about here?

    Return those, What a great man! I got a better idea for you to be a greater man: Check your house, the boat and return everything that are made in China. I suggest starting from your computer, laptop,mobile.......... in your house, from fiberglass, hardware........ in your boat. Do it if you are a true man and keep " Dumb ***" for yourself as your style of talking fits it better.
     
  10. genuinemarine
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    Now we are talking! Firstly about the "Personal" issue, let me clear the air a little bit could you please go through all the previous comments and let us know who started the Personal issues like "Idiot", "Frog", "Bustard" and "***" ? Should these be something out of the mouths of some guys who are supposed to be from devevopped countries. I am living in a developping country but at least I know how to communicate like an educated man.

    Secondly about the original topic, Not knowing a good yacht builder in China does not mean there is no good boatyard in China. Like anywhere in the world bad always co-exits with good. There are some boatyards in China which are building very very bad boats and to be honest with you I hate those people who are doing this. That is the major reason I left the boatbuilding business. However let us be objective and have a full picture of it. Here in China there are still people who are building boats such as Choeylee, Kingship, Nordhavn, Selene, Hampton, Marlow, Ocean Alexander, Horizon, Jefferson, Trader, Grand Alaska, Outer Reef, Symblol, Johnson......... Is the list long enough to prove that there are some good yards in China? I am not talking about the No 1 but good yards.

    The yacht building industry in China was started in early 1980 and China only has a yacht building history of less than 30 years. How long is the American yacht building history? Does it make sense for us to compare our yacht building level with those countries in Africa? There is a long way for those Chinese yacht builders to go and there are too much for them to learn. A couple of years ago I invited the presidents of ABYC, Yachtworld, Boats.com to make some speeches in China International Boat Show to educate those local yacht builders. Of course we know we are not ready but we are learning and catching up.

    Finding a good yacht builder here is not easy because right now those good ones are pretty busy with their orders. There are also some yards who are crazy enough to proclaim that they can build yachts even they are building ferries, patrol boats. Be very careful with those.

    I personally think if you really work out something successful here in China you need pay attention to the following issues:

    1. Find a good partner here in China who is well funded, honest, eager to learn and determined to build quality boats with an international ideas.

    2. Find somebody such as a lawyer who really knows the local law, prepare a good and practical agreement and boat building contract to protect your interest.... As detailed as it can be and make sure all your concerns are protected there.

    3. Make sure the design of your project is completed and proven. The specs of your design is detailed and prepare all the drawings as detailed as you can, all the components should be specified with the brand, model no........

    4. Find a good supervisor to oversee the production process.

    5. Check in every phase of the contruction and make sure everything sticks to the specs.

    5. Work out a good business plan so that you could sell more boats.

    These are my personal ideas and I know it is not easy to achieve those but somebody did make it. That is why I admire those Nordhavn people and they did a very good job.
     
  11. Butch .H
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    I better return every thing made in your country it has a habit of killing people expesualy your foodstuff. You and your kind always have a angle and realise this you maybe conning Mugabe and sending your inferior products to Zim. It wont happen her you inadiquate little man. By the way idiot my boats are made of wood shove your glass fibre where your head should be.You can only steal idea invent somthing of real importants. You assemble componants only you do not manufacture any componants. My house was built in 1920's using good African material. You think we cannot source componants from anywhere but your melomine enfused country. Why dont you poast somthing worth while or has the contaminated food gon to your brain.
     
  12. genuinemarine
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    Oh, my old incompetent Butch really got personal ! Talking with you now really makes me feel over-developped and educated. David made the point.

    I know our government is not doing a good job in controlling the quality of the food and that is very bad. But wait a minute that is not my work and that is not we are discussing here in the boatdesign.net

    Why don't you pump out something about the real topic which I reminded a couple of times and take back all your nonsense to your mouth.

    By the way before you do that brush up a little bit your English.
     
  13. Butch .H
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    This message is hidden because genuinemarine is on your ignore list:D :D :D :p :p :p :p :p The melamine scandal is the bench mark for doing business with you and yours. So what if you kill a few babies .Always an angle nothing straight.
     
  14. jonesg
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    America has its own history of scandals,none are pure.
    China is a bit of a wild west economy right now, its exploding exponentially.

    I did a bit of mold making a few yrs ago, aviation related, molds went to china and europe, the chinese talent with glasswork was very impressive.
    There is a culture of corruption but if you find the good guys you can't help but be impressed.
     

  15. Butch .H
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    I agree with that point.Weirdly enough we have a substantial Chinese relations Mainly in South Africa of all places but some in Taiwan as well (My grandmothers sister married into the Lee Family). They however have a sence of humor unlike our genuinemarine freind and old man Jessop.Have you read the whole thread.It started off mildly nough and degenerated fast.James nees to take a pill and David must post picturs of his boat.
     
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