What Do We Think About Climate Change

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Pericles, Feb 19, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. masalai
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 6,818
    Likes: 121, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 1882
    Location: cruising, Australia

    masalai masalai

    Sorry Per, I don't think any more (or less), just let it happen....
     
  2. wmonastra
    Joined: Jun 2006
    Posts: 86
    Likes: 5, Points: 8, Legacy Rep: 41
    Location: Auckland New Zealand

    wmonastra Junior Member

    if you own your boat (and live on it ) is it yours??? as far as i know we dont have to pay to live on the water?? only have to pay to use the facilities on the land?? ( i could be wrong?)

    the powers may own the land but id like to think that the water if free...
     
  3. masalai
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 6,818
    Likes: 121, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 1882
    Location: cruising, Australia

    masalai masalai

    As far as I can find out it mostly still is "free to sail over" in most places to a greater or lesser degree (buoys and lights fees in SI where there are none but the fees are still required)... :D:D:D
     
  4. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member


    Mmmm a good one that,-- ille have to show that to the marina manager.
     
  5. safewalrus
    Joined: Feb 2005
    Posts: 4,742
    Likes: 78, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 659
    Location: Cornwall, England

    safewalrus Ancient Marriner

    Frosty as the man said youmay own the boat! he owns the wall!!
     
  6. Petros
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 2,934
    Likes: 149, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 1593
    Location: Arlington, WA-USA

    Petros Senior Member

    in all nomadic cultures owning land (or shoreline, or what have you) was never an issue. They would strip an area of food and then pack up and to a new area to harvest. Owning things only slowed you down, risked your survival, property is a liability. The faster you can harvest and move out, the more likely you are to survive.

    With agriculture owning land became important, the more good land you owned the more food (resources) you controlled. Property becomes an asset. So the idea of owning land is only important if it is a source of power and survival. So there had to be a way of defining who owned it (a title) and where it is located (and how big it is), with a boundary survey. George Washington was a land survey in a new land, where the local population (nomads) had no sense of ownership. The land was valuable to the Europeans, not to the natives.

    Arabs were once all nomads (vast lands to wander around in with little resources available), until they discovered there was oil under all that sand, and there was a market for it. So who owned and controlled that otherwise useless land became important (and worth fighting over).

    If you blow about with the wind in your sailboat, and get all your food from the open ocean, than the only possession worth owning is a good sailboat and a fishing pole. And let all of the Hummer owners fight over the oil rich lands.
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. masalai
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 6,818
    Likes: 121, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 1882
    Location: cruising, Australia

    masalai masalai

    Well said Petros, and may all the "hummer" owners suffer the fate they demand...?
     
  8. wmonastra
    Joined: Jun 2006
    Posts: 86
    Likes: 5, Points: 8, Legacy Rep: 41
    Location: Auckland New Zealand

    wmonastra Junior Member

    ahhh the good ol'e hum vee a lol, great looking 4x4s, even drove one once , but would never want to own one, be to damm scared of hitting anything, (esp on nz roads as they arnt the widest ). give me a good vespa anyday lol
     
  9. masalai
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 6,818
    Likes: 121, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 1882
    Location: cruising, Australia

    masalai masalai

    Large 4x4's SUV's and even the toyota etc landcruiser should be TAXED off the roads, when the mamas get hold of one they are a positive menace and arrogance, Just try to park your small sensible fuel efficient car near the school to pick up your kids or whatever - the agression, language and attitude would make a battle hardened soldier feel weak.... and they can't drive for **** either.....
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Meanz Beanz
    Joined: Jun 2007
    Posts: 2,280
    Likes: 33, Points: 0, Legacy Rep: 585
    Location: Lower East ?

    Meanz Beanz Boom Doom Gloom Boom

    They try and run me over all the time... they look across the top of my car.
     
  11. wmonastra
    Joined: Jun 2006
    Posts: 86
    Likes: 5, Points: 8, Legacy Rep: 41
    Location: Auckland New Zealand

    wmonastra Junior Member

    we could always follow the sheep and go buy one ourselves and join in on the fun lol:D
     
  12. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Can you ride a sheep?-----, No I don't mean like that, I mean sit on it, or get a few of them and get them to pull a cart like Ben Hur did.

    You dont need to have swords sticking out of the wheels or anything just sensible transport.
     
  13. Knut Sand
    Joined: Apr 2003
    Posts: 471
    Likes: 30, Points: 28, Legacy Rep: 451
    Location: Kristiansand, Norway

    Knut Sand Senior Member

    Hmm, sword sticking out of the wheel base, sounds sensible to me.....:D
     
  14. wmonastra
    Joined: Jun 2006
    Posts: 86
    Likes: 5, Points: 8, Legacy Rep: 41
    Location: Auckland New Zealand

    wmonastra Junior Member

    i can try lol.. i know of a few sheep farmers who may let me play for awile lololo:D
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. Pericles
    Joined: Sep 2006
    Posts: 2,015
    Likes: 142, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 1307
    Location: Heights of High Wycombe, not far from River Thames

    Pericles Senior Member

    Brian,

    How about a really hard driving test before sheilas are allowed to drive 4x4 vehicles? That should reduce the numbers outside the schools.:D :D :D :D :D Also, put stickers on the SUVs that illustrate big vehicles are substitutes for large hairy testicles. :p :p :p :p BTW, it's the catholic schools mothers who are the most brain dead at the wheel. Too many kids to get ready, means they are always late and so they drive without due care and attention. What's worse is they are so FAT & UGLY.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    In earlier times, kids had to walk 5 miles to school and back each day. The classes got smaller as wild animals took their toll, so only the quickest and smartest survived. This ensured very good pass marks for sport and science (evolution) exam results :D :D :D

    I trust all who read this are openminded.:idea:

    Perry
     

  • Loading...
    Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
    When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.
    Thread Status:
    Not open for further replies.