Viking ship - lost - and found ?

Snore, yawn ........ 'af to agree wit you on that, Mike!

 

I do like those pics that RHP has posted. Must be some weird kink of mine. I like photo's of "trapped boats" "waiting for the tide". The best one I ever saw but don't have a copy of was of a little sailboat still afloat in it's own little puddle of water with all the other boats sitting high and dry with the tide right out.

Mychael

 

Viking ship - lost - and found

If that happened Richard, she'd be about 50-years-old by now - and my wife would kill me...

 

We all have skeletons in the closet, on balance... its probably better they stay there !

 

Tim, RHP without being to nasty chaps and I know that to you your past is an exciting thing, but to the rest of us mere mortals it rivals watching paint dry! May I suggest that you do the rest via emails etc and leave the rest of us to get on with our humdrum lives and our quest for some excitement.....this ain't it ...sorry

 

No comment sad guy ...............

 

Well Rich at least he acknowledged that we are a special breed from Meols (godlike or immortal which do you prefer?) and I won't say anymore on the subject as the conversation will no doubt go downhill. So, how do I send you a private email without revealing my personal email address on this forum, as this is all new to me.
Tim

 

Tim,

Click on RHP's logo on any of his messages. Drop down choices include "send an email", and/or "send a private message".

 

Charlie,
Thanks for that, I got there........eventually!
Tim

 

Dover Boat

Although this thread meandered somewhat, I enjoyed the banter. However, I was reminded of an earlier excavation in Kent and here is a link.

http://www.dover.gov.uk/museum/boat/

After the Younger Dryas finished about 8000 years ago http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/001199.html the climate became warmer than it is now and open boats were practical for open ocean navigation. The Vikings were able to roam far and wide because of this fact. However, in the mid 13th century. there came the Little Ice Age, which finished around !850 AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Here's the question for naval architects, is this a possible explanation for boat design change from 1250 AD onwards? A necessary move to reflect the terrible change in climate? The Great Storm of 1287 AD changed life in New Romney and Old Winchelsea and upset the balance of nautical power in the English channel for some years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romney_Marsh

This next site http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no1/reiter.htm explains why Malaria or Ague was prevalent in Romney Marsh and why it may return.

Oh dear! I am guilty of meandering as well.

Pericles

 

Nice one Pericles, why not meander some more and learn about Viking Wirral on Prof Harding's website:

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/

(sorry it won't go blue!)

Tim

 

Tim, after one has cleared the crap away from who lives at number 92, you come across as a guy who really knows his local history, and is very patriotic about it, and why not!!

The Wirral is, or should I say 'was' a very interesting if small slice of English history! In past days something in line with Dover today - lots of unwanted immigrants heading in, possibly more forceful and less 'trumpeted' the media wasn't quite as powerful nor encompassing as today! Possibly a blessing? when the only net was made out of string (I'd use other terms but doubt if you'd know them, patronising cnut - remember him, old English king - go now tell me he was from the Wirral - figures)

 

safewalrus,

Cnut was Danish, the Norse from Dublin were from Norway. The Norse colonised the west of Britain, the Danes hunted down the east coast, namely Northumberland. South of the Humber, the people were called the Suth Angli, hence, East Anglia with North Folk, South Folk & East Saxons. South of the Thames were South Saxons and West Saxons.Some Jutes may have survived in Kent and the Isle of Wight.

Many words used in North East dialects have Scandinavian roots, an example being bairn and barn (Swedish) for baby.

If the Wirral were inhabited by the Norse from Dublin and the area of the Danelaw by Danes, that might explain the differing accents and dialects between the North West and the North East.

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/JEPNS_Nov_Dec2007.pdf

Kernow, of course, is another matter, When the plague arrived from Constantinople in the 7th century and depleted the Cornish (Romano British) population, the Anglo Saxons were able to move against the Cornish and force many to escape to Brittany. See all the place names in Brittany beginning with K.

With four generations to a century all this happened only about 45 generations ago. Doesn't time fly?

Pericles

 

Pericles thank you for that history lesson of which of course I know nothing!

And Cnut was still a "cnut" (rearrange the letters into a well know old English / modern English word which is not for some reason used in modern polite society) in days of yore they spoke a little blunter but never the less true! And chose not to use the honeyed words of today which at times are rather fickle and meaningless!

 

More spookie stuff Safewalrus, King Cnut ( I prefer your anagram by the way) is supposed to have tried to turn the tide back at no other than Leasowe, Wirral, which is about a mile along the coastline from ......guesss where........MEOLS!!!!!!! It is mentioned somewhere by Prof Harding on his Nottingham website above. He is the current authority on Viking Wirral. He even did a short film clip for TV about it. And up until recently there was a 'Cnuts Chair' from the Victorian times, situated outside the Leasowe Castle Hotel.
Tim