rot resistant wood question

[pescaloco]

Hi

Allthough the application is not for a boat I'm sure sombody will have a suggestion or two.

What is needed is a rot resistant wood for use in the construction of floating bait barge boxes in saltwater, would like a wood available in the South western USA or Baja Mexico. Materials will consist of some 2x4 material 2x6 and a lot of strip plank type material 1/4 or 1/2 in thick by 1 in wide by 8 to 10 feet long. Any suggestion would be appreciated, even means of assembly meaning faster type or technique.

Thanks

[GG]

Originally Posted by pescaloco

Hi

Allthough the application is not for a boat I'm sure sombody will have a suggestion or two.

What is needed is a rot resistant wood for use in the construction of floating bait barge boxes in saltwater, would like a wood available in the South western USA or Baja Mexico. Materials will consist of some 2x4 material 2x6 and a lot of strip plank type material 1/4 or 1/2 in thick by 1 in wide by 8 to 10 feet long. Any suggestion would be appreciated, even means of assembly meaning faster type or technique.

Thanks

Coosa is a material that is stronger then wood lighter and will never rot put you might need some assembly for achieving the desired thickness that you want and it can be purchased from here www.advanced-plastics.com

[rasorinc]

composits qre the only wat to go for you. here is a source of HDPE. For fasteners use Silicon bronze for salt water exposure.
http://www.inlandplywood.com/SEABOARD.htm

3M makes a specific adhesive for HDPE.

[The copper guy]

The plastic wood as above is the best for your purpose' Coosa or other.
It can be shaped/Bent/twisted etc with the use of a simple heat gun????

However if you want wood CYPRESS is of coarse unbeatable this wood is from the swamp and in the swamp"s they use it for everything!!!!

You may want to consider fastening with copper ring nails (you will have to pre drill.
Whatever you fasten with, Dew to much handling they will require something
more. (a short peace of canvas fire hose on each corner?)
Also some kind of hinge will be needed???
My suggestion would be webbing? also attached with copper ring 1/4inch(nylon rope will rot in the sun)Canvas webbing will last a long time(Fire hose again perhaps??) This would also make good fending around the box.
If you are shore based why not set up a tank with salt water pump"s
I worked in a bait shack and set up several such tank"s and i also have a list of suppliers for the copper ring nails.
please don't hesitate to contact me if you need anything. The copper guy

[Boston]

you might check out white oak ( which I have laying around )

[alan white]

White oak is heavy but won't rot easily, especially in salt water. Yellow pine, pressure treated and available anywhere, will be somewhat lighter and it will last almost indefinitely without rotting. Cedars are probably not tough enough though they are very light and relatively rot resistant.
Plastic has poor stiffness, tending to sag over spans that would be no problem for real wood. Plastic is expensive too. It is, however, inert, and underwater, it won't decay. The sun can break down plastic over time.

[Boston]

ya I would not recommend plastics either
we have enough of that stuff floating round in the oceans already

[CDK]

There is a tropical hardwood called meranti. Reddish brown, doesn't rot and is not attacked by insects. One of the few types that can be used outside without any treatment. Cheaper than oak, but very strong and also heavy.

[pescaloco]

Guys thank you ALL for the suggestions.

I was thinking pressure treated for the demensional lumber, but did'nt know for the slat material. Alan is your suggestion plain Yellow Pine or is it a pressure treated material ?

Where does a person get high quality fasterens these days that are not Chinese junk ? No offense to the Chinese ofcourse.

[Hunter25]

Use pressure treated throughout your project. This is what it was designed for but you should check to see that the CA poisons used to treat the lumber will not kill your bait too. The thinner stuff you were asking about can be ripped from 2 x 4 or 4 x 4 material. Special screws need to be used with the new PT lumber treatments. All big box stores carry these types of screws, but check for submersion compatibility.

[The copper guy]

whatever you do do not use pressure treated wood it will kill your bait m8

[pescaloco]

Originally Posted by The copper guy

whatever you do do not use pressure treated wood it will kill your bait m8

Thank you !!!!!!!!

We are in the begining stages of researching this

[Boston]

go with a naturally rot resistant wood
white oak
black locust
cedar
your bound to get better results

cheers
B

[alan white]

Originally Posted by pescaloco

Guys thank you ALL for the suggestions.

I was thinking pressure treated for the demensional lumber, but did'nt know for the slat material. Alan is your suggestion plain Yellow Pine or is it a pressure treated material ?

The fact is, finding untreated yellow pine is not as easy as finding the treated stuff. I see no problem with pressure-treated. Look for moderately dry suff with few knots and straight grain. Your particular needs are not too critical. pick through the piles, and avoid box stores. They store the wood indoors, which causes the wood to warp. Check out lumber yards that store the stuff outside under a shed roof.
If treated wood kills bait, try if you can to get some untreated yellow pine. In salt water, it does well and it's a tough wood.

[pescaloco]

Thanks Guys

You know Allan I never put it together that box stores indoor climate made their wood warp and cupp, just thought it was junk...........that makes sense
thanks