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Old 10-29-2011, 11:49 PM
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PS, you may also see me beginning to think through the notion of building a new boat in the thread i started re: One piece stem and keel.

I really detested the fact that the current boat had a separate keel and stem and whether it was the result of a later repair or part of the original build, it was a dirt, water and hang trap imho.

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Old 10-30-2011, 01:45 AM
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I really detested the fact that the current boat had a separate keel and stem and whether it was the result of a later repair or part of the original build, it was a dirt, water and hang trap imho.
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But very traditional, and very common way of building planked boats. They all look gungy and dirty after a week in the open.

Anything with ribs, ledges, etc on the inside of the hull is a dirt and rot trap - hence my preference for stitch and glue - everything inside is smooth.
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:45 AM
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Why couldn't the last few inches of the boat be cut off and the transom moved up to solid planking and skip all the zippering in new plank ends?

Never mind, I see that's a plan already put forward.

Did you ever find out if the boat is anything "special", of historical or monetary value? If neither one, it's a good practice boat to try out what will probably work without having to get all anal about workmanship or what the Neptunium crowd will think. A bunch of varnished wood will always bedazzle most people.
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:38 PM
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Keels and stems are separate assemblies for several good reasons Mike. First is they can be removed, repaired and reinstalled independently. It would be a much more costly arrangement if the whole damn keel had to come out, just to fix a problem with the stem. The stem and keel preform different functions and in this regard wood is often oriented differently in a stem, then in a keel, to best service the different requirements. The continuous stem/keel assembly would be a nightmare to bend without massive stocks and the world largest steam box for many builds. Once you've bent some wood and broken a fair percentage of them in the process (nature of the beast), you'll see why other methods are adopted. Rather then condemn the structural elements without an understanding of their impact and role in the structural assembly, maybe you'd be better off trying to understand the ways things are done, possably the logic behind it instead, as you can bet it's been thought about a lot more then you can imagine, likely resulting in what you see.
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Interesting you asked about the boat's origin. While sanding the strips in the last foot of the boat, under two layers of paint but on top of that which I believe is the original coat of paint; I have found something that might be a logo.

Unfortunately, by the time I saw it, then carefully removed the other two coats of old paint in the area, I was left with something unrecognizable. I am now hoping that something like it will be on the opposite side and I'll be ginger indeed hile removing that paint.

Thanks for the response,

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Old 10-30-2011, 07:00 PM
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Thank you Mr. Par. I won't lie and say it doesn't smart a bit to be corrected, but I'll take mine standing up please.

Duly noted and accepted.

Please don't give up on me, sooner or later I'm bound to get something right.

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Old 11-01-2011, 02:02 PM
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@flipsdream.Bird I would flip that badboy upside down,refasten it and glass it.Good luck with this.
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