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Old 10-12-2009, 02:22 PM
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Well, I am not exactly what you would call an inexperienced boater. This isn't going to be the first time I've gotten into a small unstable boat. The only first about it is the fact that this is going to be my first build.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:04 PM
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I understand that the boat I bought plans for is very unconventional, but I plan to HEAVILY modify it. I will not even use the Carnell flange. I will just use a frame, or I guess you could call it a stiffener. The frame will just be a 1 inch thick board running from side to side, and it will also be the seat. It will be much lighter I suspect. Would you recommend a stiffener running from bow to stern also, or will the seat stiffener be enough?
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:50 AM
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:45 PM
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Yeah your right PAR. I chose a bad design. I was kinda' stupider than I am now. I chose what "Looked cool" to me, and I made a 25 dollar mistake. I know that Jim Michilak is not the only choice as far as boats, but he seemed to be the cheapest . Maybe a boat more like this?
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/ji...dink/index.htm
or even this?
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/tween/index.htm
Maybe this?
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/ji...dink/index.htm
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:58 PM
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Store brand cola is cheaper, too.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:40 PM
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What other cola can you buy, besides store brand? I didn't know that you could grow cola .
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:52 PM
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Store brand means has the name of the store that is selling it, not Coke, Pepsi, etc.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:52 PM
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OH I see.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:13 AM
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It is OK. We were all young once. You just didn't know.

Ignorance is unavoidable, but curable. We all are ignorant at the beginning.

The sad ones are the ones who never try to pull themselves out of it. Those are the ones we call stupid.

And stupidity is voluntary.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:40 PM
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I'm getting tired of people saying that I chose bad design for a boat. I admit, I was kind of stupid to choose an 8ft by 3.5 ft V bottom. It was a stupid idea in the first place. Even I was wondering about my choice of design, and I should've asked a professional before choosing a design that was unsuitable. I don't want to have to buy another set of plans just to find out that they are unsuitable too, so I have designed my own boat. You may think that since I have almost no experience in designing boats, that my design would be insufficient, but know this before making any conclusions. The boat I designed has ALMOST no curves. The only curve is in the bottom, when it slopes upward 6 inches and stops at the bow transom which is 1 foot wide by 4 feet long. The entire height of the hull is 1.5 feet though, so the stern transom is 6 inches short of the top of the hull. The entire length of the hull is 8 feet, and it is 4 feet wide. It has a completely flat bottom and sides. Like I said, the only curve is the bottom, so it kind of looks like a barge. It will use the same amount of plywood as the weevee but it will be more stable. To make the each side the same exact dimensions, I will first cut out one of the sides then use it as a pattern for the other side. I know that switching ideas is annoying, but please follow me on this one. Even if I have designed it, it is so far the best boat I have thought about building.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:41 PM
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Stupid is too harsh a word. You were a victim of your lack of experience, but recover by thinking of it as tuition in The School of Hard Knocks, and do more research before investing any more money. Don't feel bad. Every person on this or any other thread has made mistakes this big or bigger.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:44 PM
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Almost no curves:http://www.mcdonoughmarine.com/ocean.htm
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My first boat had NO curves, but two hulls, like the drawing I sent you on an earlier post.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:58 AM
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I chose what "Looked cool" to me, and I made a 25 dollar mistake. I know that Jim Michilak is not the only choice as far as boats, but he seemed to be the cheapest .
This is even cheaper, it is free!


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Old 10-22-2009, 02:04 PM
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More information please?
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