The last of the one sheeters.

[brucehallman]

Originally Posted by LP

Which book is it that has the similar hull design? I need to purchase one of his books just to have it in my collection. I'm a fan of more traditional inspired designs and that might explained why I have not been compelled to purchase any of Phil's books. I'm assuming there is more than one. I'm sure it's still good study material.

Probably the best Bolger book to start with is his book "Boats with an Open Mind", ISBN 978-0070063761

I could be mistaken, but no, I do not believe that he designed a boat resembling this one sheet kayak featured in this thread.

Phil Bolger has designed plenty of traditionally inspired designs! The thing is that he also has designed unconventional designs, and that is what most people remember about him. Anyway, he designed 700+ boats. Including the HMS Rose, seen below.

[Easy Rider]

Bruce,
I just stated that such a design indeed exists. Before you contradict me perhaps you should look in Bolger's book "Small Boats" on page 6.
LP,
Bolger was a designer that frequently thought and designed "out of the box". His "Thomaston Galley" is another design I've not seen before or since. I checked ...I don't have the "Open Mind" book.
I have a large Necky kayak w the standard big rudder and enlarged it considerably hopping it would turn better. It did but only slightly but it did have a profound affect on it's directional stability ...much more than the ability to turn. And that was no gain as it's directional stability was already high. I think I need to remove some of the keel far aft. Your kayak has little else to give it directional stability so when/if you remove some of the fin/keel only a small amount should do the trick. A boat that may paddle a bit like yours is the Eddyline (brand) Sandpiper. The Sandpiper is one model they have kept for many years ...perhaps longer than any other. I have paddled the Sandpiper and it was such a delight I really did'nt want to give it up. I still think I'd like to buy one and keep it handy. But my wife would probably take it away from me.

[brucehallman]

Originally Posted by Easy Rider

Bruce,
I just stated that such a design indeed exists. Before you contradict me perhaps you should look in Bolger's book "Small Boats" on page 6.
LP,

The design on pg6 of _Small Boats_ is Poohsticks, a very early Bolger design. It has similarities to the one sheet kayak at the top of this thread, though it is not a kayak or a one sheet boat. Being 11ft4in LOA, and probably taking three sheets or four sheets of plywood. Still, Poohsticks is a very nice and pretty boat!

Here is an isometric CADD model of Poohsticks which I made:

[LP]

Originally Posted by Easy Rider

Just stumbled on to this thread and immediately recognized the hull form as something I'd seen before. After going through several books I found it. Phil Bolger designed such a hull as a row boat ...11'4" X 3'10". A little wider and not quite as much deadrise but basically the same hull. I've often thought of building an OB skiff like that w the deadrise constant aft. The Bolger boat is called Poohstics and is on page 7 of his book Small Boats. I'll be looking for you in the future LP.

Easy, I have to agree that the hullform is indeed very similar. Uncanny almost with the skeg on it. Thanks for posting the rendering, BH. I was unable to find any visuals of this little craft on the web so it was nice to be able to compare it to my little boat.



And with the current skeg configuration.



I don't know, Easy. Maybe we're stretching it a bit. By about 4'.

[brucehallman]

Originally Posted by LP

Easy, I have to agree that the hullform is indeed very similar.

Most plywood panel boats have variations of three possible hull forms.

The three panel, four panel, or five panel.

More than five, then it should be considered to be a curvy boat in my opinion, versus a panel boat.

[Easy Rider]

Bruce,
I was referring only to the hull form and prolly should have been more clear. Ther'es advantages and disadvantages to this text world. I'm really impressed w your CAD drawings assuming they were casual and quick to render. Thank you for posting the drawings especially so LP can see Poohsticks. That's something I'll need to get in the future ... a program for computer drawing.

LP,
"Maybe we're stretching it a bit. By about 4'." That would be good for speed but it sounds like you prefer a shorter boat that's more fun. I would want it 14 to 15'.

[LP]

The 4' reference was actually a vague reference to the length difference between my boat and Poohsticks. My humor falls a bit on the Saharan side. I'm done, I think, with (building) these little boats. I've been using my 12'er that's seaworthy, but still needs finishing. To use it though, I don't have a rack, so I have to hook up my trailer, tie it down and haul it down to the water. The little one, I just throw in the back of the pick-up and head to the water. There is something to be said for the convenience of the little on.

My drawing board has longer kayaks on it. My wife wants to build one so was drawing up a 13.5'er for her, but I'm leaning towards a match set of 15' lapstrakes.

[ancient kayaker]

Originally Posted by LP

The 4' reference was actually a vague reference to the length difference between my boat and Poohsticks. My humor falls a bit on the Saharan side. I'm done, I think, with (building) these little boats. I've been using my 12'er that's seaworthy, but still needs finishing. To use it though, I don't have a rack, so I have to hook up my trailer, tie it down and haul it down to the water. The little one, I just throw in the back of the pick-up and head to the water. There is something to be said for the convenience of the little on.

My drawing board has longer kayaks on it. My wife wants to build one so was drawing up a 13.5'er for her, but I'm leaning towards a match set of 15' lapstrakes.

I don't recall seeing a pic of a lapstrake kayak . . .

[LP]

Originally Posted by ancient kayaker

I don't recall seeing a pic of a lapstrake kayak . . .

I haven't posted, yet. I'm still working the details. I'll try to post something in the next couple of days. Most likely over on the Kayak design parameters. thread.