Eat your heart out men....

[Winingar]

Now I don't want to intimidate anyone, especially guys like Par and Alan (who have forgotten more in the last 5 mins about boat building, than I will ever know) but here is the start of my dream...

The Dream...





The reality...

Not much compared to the likes of some of the great builders on this board, but a start nonetheless.

I will keep you updated on my progress. Please be available for many questions....

[Bergalia]

Don't rise to the bait Alan, Par...The boy is all talk. There's no water in Oklahoma...I've seen the musical....

[Winingar]

There's water, it's just mostly used for moon shining!!!

[LP]

The funny part is, is that there is more water in Okie Homie that than there is in Kansas. Reminds me of a joke about why the wind blows in Kansas, but I'll leave it to Winingar to fill in the details.

Good luke on your project.

[PAR]

Congratulations Winingar. That is a very ambitious project, especially for a novice. Work sure, but steady and don't be tempted to alter the plans. Even a minor detail, likely has a reason for existence and a profound impact on the performance or outcome of the build. That boat is particularly weight sensitive, so build carefully.

[eponodyne]

Get the plans from Sandy Point Boat Works? How would you rate the plans themselves, and what do you plan to power it with *coughtwinford300straight6cough*?

[Winingar]

I am pretty pleased with the actual plans and patterns. The proccess to get the plans took a little while to get, but overall not that bad at all. I didn't so much plan on using Sandy Point, but I couldn't find the actual White Cap anywhere else. I really like the design of the White Cap and it made for a good build in my situation.

Would I buy from Sandy Point again? Absolutely, they've done a great job for us.

As far as the power, I am leaning towards a regular ol' Chevy 350, I know it won't be an in line Ford.

[Winingar]

Ahhhhh, my first questions.

Everything seems to be going well, not really much to screw up just copying the patterns (knock on wood) but I'm wodering if I should double up this brace on the frame members.

I thought I would make 2 pieces per seem, but then I got these 2 cut and drilled, then attached to one side and after I put the bolts in, it seems that this should be sufficient, but I'm wondering if it would be better to go ahead and make 2 plates per seem, and then bolt them all the way through. I will of course epoxy all these parts together after all the ribs are made and of course the stem and keel.

So what do you think? Both sides or is one side enough?

[USCGRET/E8]

Best to stick with the plans to the letter unless you are a proffesional. The one piece is most likely stronger than the two pieces it attaches to. Especially in that you have the grain of the wood correct.

[Winingar]

Originally Posted by USCGRET/E8

Best to stick with the plans to the letter unless you are a proffesional.

Now you didn't specify a professional *what*. If you were to ask my wife, I'm sure she would have a few choice words.

As far as the plans, it doesn't specify.

I know there are a few different ways to do it, but I went with this. I've only made these 2 though, so I figure now is the time to get it correct.

Thanks for the reply.

[USCGRET/E8]

I have seen two used, but they where made of thinner plywood. That would make it 6 of one and a half dozen of the other! Do you have access to any of the old mahogany boats? You could learn alot from studying them as well. At least, that is what I have done. If you haven't already, you might want to get on the http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/
for some better answers...

[USCGRET/E8]

[Winingar]

Looks great! How is she running today? Did you have an inboard motor?

[Winingar]

After 3 days, this is my progress. Looks like it's going to be a long haul!!! I'm at #6 and have 13 the length of the hull, not counting the stem and transom. One of you guys said whatever the time limit you *think* it's going to be and whatever the $$$ that you *think* it's going to be.........double it. That's truly great advise.

[alan white]

Originally Posted by Winingar

Ahhhhh, my first questions.

Everything seems to be going well, not really much to screw up just copying the patterns (knock on wood) but I'm wodering if I should double up this brace (knee) on the frame members.

I thought I would make 2 pieces per seem, but then I got these 2 cut and drilled, then attached to one side and after I put the bolts in, it seems that this should be sufficient, but I'm wondering if it would be better to go ahead and make 2 plates per seem, and then bolt them all the way through. I will of course epoxy all these parts together after all the ribs are made and of course the stem and keel.

So what do you think? Both sides or is one side enough?

Think about it this way---- if properly glued and bolted with one gusset, and then stressed, you'd probably break a frame, not the gusset. So why make the gusset stronger without making the frames stronger?
Quite the boat, Win, should keep you occupied for... um... weeks!

Alan