Building a boat

[Lister]

I think I would have the time to built a boat.
Some kind of North Sea trawler. Salty, with high bulwark, all timbers, little accommodation, double sawn frames, beefy planking, and a bluff bow.
Some plans around? To start to make me drooling?
Lister

[cthippo]

Something like this?

CMDs Little Island Trader 30

Hartley's Searaker 37

Hartley C-catcher 50

[Lister]

Thanks, I apreciate your help.
I like it. I investigate.
Lister

[cthippo]

I like that design too, but it's just too big for me.

[Aharon]

what a cute little boat. I wonder what size and type of engine it uses?

[Eric Sponberg]

Try contacting Jay Benford Design Group. His Little Sinbad 45' trawler is an attractive boat and similar to the ones displayed above. I saw the only one ever built, in steel, in North Carolina about 8 years ago. Being a designer, I am also always open to custom design inquiries. But Benford's Little Sinbad is a neat little boat.

Eric

[Lister]

Thank you Eric, I appreciate you suggestion.
It is refreshing and unusual that a naval architect so famous as you are to suggest a design from an other designer.
I keep you in mind of course.
You are a real gentleman.
Lister

[Eric Sponberg]

Lister, thank you for the compliments. I happen to know Jay Benford personally, and I have always liked his designs. The Little Sinbad took me quite by surprise when I saw it "in the flesh" so to speak, unfinished and rather neglected at the time, back in 2001. But I immediately recognized her lines. Her owner finally marshalled his resources to finish the yacht in 2002 while we were building the first Moloka'i Strait 65 at Custom Steel boats. She is out there somewhere.

Eric

[Lister]

One of the type of construction which have great appeal for me, beside the double sawn frame, is the composite. Steel angle bars frames with single longitudinal planking, not caulked. The under body and to a certain extend above the boot top, sheathed with zinc over tar. All the fastening been of steel, the copper even superior can't be considered.
It will save a large amount of wood, double sawn ends up with almost a 50% waste.
I think the wood I will consider for the planking, due to the bluff bow, will be oak. It bend very well under fire and oil.
It is not a bad idea in my view to have the superstructure in steel, bolted to the wood deck.
Of course it is what I experienced, so I am sure very more modern techniques are far superior. But as beautiful they are, they lake the "feeling" and the
"fragrance" of the old vessel.
It is just an opinion. Nothing very carved.
Lister

[gonzo]

If you are building composite, double planking could be ideal.

[Lister]

Yes Gonzo, it is a good point.
The bow can be more easily planked, perhaps no need for oak and a good Oregon will do perfectly.
Probably fastened in between frames from inside with round head and washer.
Both planks bolted to the frame.
Some black Zophar in between.
Lister