aspault roofing tar as bedding compound?

[soggy]

Looking for a cheap bedding for my keel, floors and the gussets on the frames and got the idea to use up some of the 50 sum odd gal.s I have taking up space in my workshop. So basically has any one tried this and is it a good idea. BTW aesthetics are not an issue.

[JLIMA]

I've used both asphalt and petroleum based tars on ocasion you can paint over the asphalt fairly ok, but the petroleum will bleed through anything. They both seemed to work alright but there are better products out there.

[gonzo]

Works fine. It will bleed through the paint and smells like tar. For the ballast keel or any other place that needs a thicker build, soak fiberglass mat in the tar.

[dskira]

Originally Posted by soggy

Looking for a cheap bedding for my keel, floors and the gussets on the frames and got the idea to use up some of the 50 sum odd gal.s I have taking up space in my workshop. So basically has any one tried this and is it a good idea. BTW aesthetics are not an issue.

Buehler design?
Daniel

Originally Posted by dskira

Buehler design?
Daniel

sounds like that yeah..

[Landlubber]

...aw come on fellas, tar has been used extensively in wooden boats for centuries, it was the only product that they could use until the 20th century when better products were made.

It does have a major flaw in that it goes hard and brittle as it dries out over a long period, thus actually removing itself from the position of trust that it was intentionally deposited for, so it is basically an unreliable alternative today.....but, yes it works and yes it is cheap if that is your sole purpose of use.

You get what you pay for, if you intend the vessel to remain strong and tight for a long time, do not use it.

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by dskira

Buehler design?
Daniel

I just received 'Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding' in the mail yesterday, along with 'How to Build a Wooden Boat' by Bud McIntosh. I've had my nose happily buried in one book or the other ever since, reading up on all sorts of stuff that really doesn't apply to sharpie building. Along with a fair amount that does, of course.

Originally Posted by troy2000

I just received 'Buehler's Backyard Boatbuilding' in the mail yesterday, along with 'How to Build a Wooden Boat' by Bud McIntosh. I've had my nose happily buried in one book or the other ever since, reading up on all sorts of stuff that really doesn't apply to sharpie building. Along with a fair amount that does, of course.

George Buehler is a nice guy.*

His designs are valid.**

Some of his boats are very popular***


* well in a positive way one could say a dreamer, he has not really ever grasped whats on.

** absolutely no doubt, that his designs float. And never, not a single time to the "estimated" values.

*** especially the so much promoted Diesel Ducks. Built by the Chinese yard they are above the price of similar European boats whith better qualities, built by the Turkish yard, you must forget about yacht appearance.

Well,
he is a nice guy................

[soggy]

Not a Buehler design actually, although similar to his Julian Adderly. I had the plans drawn up locally to meet my requirements of being a full displacement power boat with basic accommodation for 3 people for 3 days with a lots of deck space. although I want to add a after control station behind the wheelhouse in addition to the one on the fly bridge and the one enclosed in the house, I don't know why but I like the idea of it... but thats off topic. I was just looking at a relatively cheaper-ish idea for a bedding compound and thought of roofing tar because it's 1 cheap, 2 I already have a Sh!t ton of it, 3, even when cured it has some spring to it, i think.

[dskira]

Originally Posted by soggy

Not a Buehler design actually, although similar to his Julian Adderly. I had the plans drawn up locally to meet my requirements of being a full displacement power boat with basic accommodation for 3 people for 3 days with a lots of deck space. although I want to add a after control station behind the wheelhouse in addition to the one on the fly bridge and the one enclosed in the house, I don't know why but I like the idea of it... but thats off topic. I was just looking at a relatively cheaper-ish idea for a bedding compound and thought of roofing tar because it's 1 cheap, 2 I already have a Sh!t ton of it, 3, even when cured it has some spring to it, i think.

Personaly I use Pro Neo-Seal Neoprene Rubber from DeWitt's.
$3.60 the tube.
It is a good stuff, do not bleed, and it is cheap.
Give them a call.
Daniel